CDL: illustrations in humanities ebooks (response 5)

From: John P. Abbott <AbbottJP_at_appstate.edu>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:07:58 -0400
To: COLLDV-L_at_usc.edu
From: Laval Hunsucker <amoinsde_at_yahoo.com>
To: COLLDV-L_at_usc.edu
Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 5:14:58 PM
Subject: Re: CDL- illustrations in humanities ebooks

Helen asked :

 > > Where is the answer? I would love to hear
 > > your thoughts and so would my publisher.

   *The* answer may be nowhere.

   Need this -- and *can* it even -- come down
purely to a question of *the* answer, in any
event of *the ideal* or *the only* answer ?

   Since illustrations can and do, of course, range
all the way from essential to marginal ( or even
irrelevant  :-)  ? ), in any given case, for conveying
an author's message, it should be quite possible
to imagine and to justify various workable
compromise approaches, whereby the reader
need not be left in ignorance, or in doubt, as to
what s/he's *specifically* missing in any given
case.

   This itself could already eliminate many of the
potential problems for various readers with their
varying purposes and requirements in varying
contexts, could it not ?  They are in general better
at fending for themselves than we, perhaps too
often, imagine.


- Laval Hunsucker
   Breukelen, Nederland




-----Original Message-----

From: owner-COLLDV-L_at_usc.edu [mailto:owner-COLLDV-L_at_usc.edu] On Behalf
Of Lynn Sipe
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:17 AM
To: COLLDV-L_at_usc.edu
Subject: CDL- illustrations in humanities ebooks


      From:
      "Anderson, Helen" <handerson_at_library.rochester.edu


      Apologies for cross-posting with the collib-l list.

      Hello,

      In addition to my work as a librarian, I'm on the editorial board of a

      small academic humanities publisher. To date, they have been supplying

      only their backlist titles as ebooks. They submit a disclaimer that
      reads " Some images in the printed version of this book are not
      available for inclusion in the eBook. To view the images on this page
      please refer to the printed version of this book." In other words,
      they do not have the electronic rights for all the illustrations.

      Now, they would like to move further into the field of ebooks. Rather
      than only supplying backlist titles, they intend to release front list

      titles within 60 days of the printed book release. Securing electronic

      rights to all the illustrations at the same time as securing the print

      rights, would increase the price of the book.

      They want to know how librarians feel about purchasing eBooks that
      don't have the same number of illustrations as the printed version?
      They would like to understand what concerns and reactions librarians
      have regarding this.

      I gave a fairly nuanced response to my contact, saying that it
      depended on the title. To save a bit on the price, I reasoned, it
      might be OKAY not to have all the illustrations. When it comes to
      humanities, I usually buy the print first and the ebook later in order

      to provide a greater number of students and faculty. This is a
      reflection feedback I've had from our humanities faculty. Yes, they
      want to use stuff from their desktop, but they still want us to have
      the print in the collection. So if the ebook is seen as supplementary
      to the print, maybe it's OKAY to have it without all the illustrations.

      Now that I think it over, I can see that this is a slippery slope.
      This is the reasoning of someone who is trying to make her dwindling
      budget go as far as possible. Wouldn't this just increase confusion?
      Wouldn't it consign the ebook to a lesser status in relation to the
      print? What is the book anyway? Shouldn't the author be deciding in
      conjunction with the editor which illustrations should be included? If

      the illustrations are lacking, doesn't that change the nature of the
      book? And what about cost?

      Where is the answer? I would love to hear your thoughts and so would
      my publisher.

      Thank you,

      Helen

      Helen Anderson

      Head, Collection Development

      River Campus Libraries

      University of Rochester

      Rochester, NY 14627-0055

      Tel. 585-275-3302
Received on Sat Apr 17 2010 - 03:01:44 EDT