CDL: Keeping the NUC, aka Mansell, pre-56? (responses 1-7)

From: John P. Abbott <AbbottJP_at_appstate.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 14:33:09 -0400
To: Colldv-l <COLLDV-L_at_usc.edu>
[This question  brought many responses.  They
fall generally into two, not surprisingly, points of
view based on local needs, demands, uses, and expectation.
Here are the early returns---]

Original posting:

from:  abbottjp_at_appstate.edu

Could I see a show of hands of colleges and universities
that have discarded the _National Union Catalog_ aka Mansell,
Pre-56 Imprints?  About 1000 volumes in the various parts.
Accompanying tales appreciated as well.


==1==

From: John Rutledge <jbr_at_email.unc.edu>

This answers a question other than the one you ask, but I think it's 
relevant.  (We've had some prior discussion about the continuing value 
of "Mansell" on the German specialists list.)

To what extent does the NUC pre-'56 offer material not found in WorldCat?

I had an assistant do 10 searches from the NUC against WorldCat.  Two 
items of ten were NOT in WorldCat. One of them was German (1921), one 
was Spanish (1912).

Our head of cataloging speculates that more than 10% of the entries in 
the NUC pre-'56 will not be found in WorldCat.  Cataloging still 
considers it an invaluable tool.

So the continuing importance of the NUC pre-'56 seems to be validated, 
no? Obviously we are not going to discard any time soon.

John Rutledge
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill

==2==

URI has kept it. But we did sell the old LC/NUC sets many years ago.

William T. O'Malley               E-mail: RKA101_at_uri.edu
Chair, Dept. of Technical Services
University Library            Voice:  (401) 874-4799
University of Rhode Island        Fax:    (401) 874-4608
15 Lippitt Rd.
Kingston, RI 02881

==3==

If ours wasn't discarded it's lost somewhere in storage.  Only once in 
the nearly nine years that I've been here has it been requested; that 
was by a faculty member from the History Dept.  I was able to get what 
he needed from OCLC.

Shirley Horbatt
Collection Development Librarian
Kean University Library
Union, NJ
shorbatt_at_kean.edu

==4==

Check out "Mansell Revisted" in the latest issue of
American Libraries on p. 78.  Unfortunately the
article is not available online.

Missy Harvey
Computer Science Librarian
Senior Librarian
Engineering & Science Library
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA  15213

==5==

We've kept it here at Wayne State University. I think that it remains 
useful for those cases where you need to scan pages for an incertain 
spelling of an author's name. Computers and WorldCat are wonderful for 
exact matches but not so good for fuzzy information.

To give a specific example, as a professor in library and information 
science, I wanted to track down the author that Marion the Librarian 
in the Music Man cites in her conversation with the mayor's wife. The 
verbal cues from the movie weren't good enough for me to get the exact 
spelling so that I wasn't successful in WorldCat or our local online 
catalog, but I found the author in about ten minutes by scanning 
Mansell. Plus, I was able to use the additional information from 
having the full record before me instead of just a summary screen of 
authors' names.

On the other hand, these infrequent uses may not be enough to justify 
keeping the set if you need the space. I would also add, however, that 
the set may have absolutely no value on the used book market because I 
tried several years ago, with no success, to give away a relatively 
complete set.

Robert P. Holley
Professor, Library & Information Science Program
106 Kresge Library
Wayne State University
Detroit, MI  48202
313-577-4021 (voice) 313-577-7563 (fax)
AA3805_at_WAYNE.EDU (Internet)

==6==

From:
"Joanne Oud" <joud_at_wlu.ca>

We have pitched all but the pre-56, and as far as I know no one has
missed anything.  We are keeping the pre-56 for now because the
cataloguers still occasionally use them, but are planning to discard
them in the relatively near future.  They gather a lot of dust and 
take up a lot of shelves.

Joanne

Joanne Oud
Head, Collection Development
Wilfrid Laurier University Library
75 University Ave W.
Waterloo, ON  Canada  N2L 3C5
phone 519-884-1970 ext 2073
fax 519-884-3209
joud_at_wlu.ca

==7==

From:
Mia Massicotte <miamass_at_vax2.concordia.ca>

At Concordia University Library in Montreal, we went through the 
throes of discarding the Mansell from our downtown campus just last 
May, due to a space crunch, and given its very very infrequent use. 
It was quite expensive for us to remove this physically from our 
premises, due to its size and weight; and our ILL department did not 
want it to go.

However, we have a copy of Mansell at our other campus, which we will 
retain.  At some point if we get additional promised space downtown, 
we may (or may not) relocate that copy to the downtown campus.

We disposed of Technical Services's copy of Mansell some years ago.

Mia Massicotte

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Concordia University Library
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Montreal, Quebec Canada H3G 1M8
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