Re: The Return of Cards?

From: James Weinheimer <weinheimer.jim.l_at_nyob>
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 17:20:32 +0200
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
On 10/5/2013 2:25 PM, Alexander Johannesen wrote:
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> So what are libraries doing with information design of their data? Do 
> they care?
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This is really the main point, and I think there is kind of a 
misunderstanding what library data really is among lots of 
people--including librarians and catalogers. In your message, you 
mentioned how in Google you found recipes for pancakes, and found it 
even in Norwegian although you are in Australia. It would be interesting 
to find out if you searched in English (the word "pancakes") if you 
would still get something in Norwegian because of everything Google 
knows about you (you have a gmail account).

You could never get anything like the same result in a library catalog. 
Why? Because there are no recipes in the library catalog. The recipes 
are in the library's collection. This is why I have said that the public 
is not really interested in our catalogs. They are interested in the 
information in the collection and if they are to get to that 
information, they must go through the catalog (or wander helplessly in 
the stacks) but that doesn't mean either that they want to use the 
catalog or that they enjoy it. Someone who is interested in pancakes can 
use the catalog all day long, looking at the records and sorting them 
and rearranging them, and at the end still not have the slightest idea 
what is a pancake or how to cook it. But you would have an idea of what 
had been published about pancakes. That is a completely different 
experience from what people have in the Googles, where the information 
itself is digested and immediately accessible with a click on a link.

If there were no access to full content from Google searches (as happens 
so often in Google Books where you only get a snippet or nothing at all) 
then people would experience the same thing as using the library 
catalog, where they could search all day long and still know nothing. In 
library catalogs, you are not searching the *data* you are interested 
in, such as recipes and other information about pancakes, but you are 
searching only the data *about* the data you want: when it was 
published, who did it, where it can be found etc.

So, when you ask: what are libraries doing with the information design 
of their data? The library's data (i.e. the information in the catalog, 
which is titles, authors, publication information and so on) is *not* 
what people want from the library. They want the information that is 
*in* the books and maps and scores and so on. While people certainly 
want to manipulate the information about pancakes, or whatever topic 
that interests them, I think very few are interested in manipulating the 
information *about the information* on pancakes, or whatever interests 
them.

The catalog is nothing more than a tool that people want to use as 
efficiently as possible so that they can leave it behind to get at what 
they really want. Just like we use Google. It is fast and efficient and 
the reason we like it so much is that we don't have to spend a lot of  
time in Google, but on the pages we want.

This may be obvious to people like you, but when I have pointed this 
out, it has left some catalogers angry or hurt since it seems that I am 
saying what they are doing isn't important. On the contrary, what they 
are doing is important but people have to understand that the less time 
people spend with the catalog, it must be considered a success because 
it shows that the catalog is an efficient tool, that is, as long as the 
people are finding materials successfully.

Returning once again to your question: what are libraries doing with the 
information design of their data? We must ask: what is their data? Most 
library data is not very interesting except perhaps circulation 
information (especially to the National Security Agency!) otherwise, 
because of copyright, libraries mostly do not own the information in 
their books, etc. Google scoops it up off the web and web masters love 
them for it, while when libraries for digitize materials, publishers sue 
them.

I do think that catalog information could be very useful to people 
however but it has to be reconsidered in the electronic environment, and 
sadly it seems as if few want to do that.

-- 
James Weinheimer weinheimer.jim.l_at_gmail.com
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