Re: Death of Semantic Web - is it so, and how does it affect Cataloging on the Semantic web

From: James Weinheimer <weinheimer.jim.l_at_nyob>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:19:48 +0200
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
On 12/10/2011 18:35, Sanchez, Elaine R wrote:
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> Hello,
> Does anyone on this list have an idea on what the following article means, if anything, for Cataloging on the Semantic Web, use of RDA, necessity of the granularity of bibliographic data, the future of transition from MARC to something else, difference between XML and RDF and does this affect our current projected plans? It seems to indicate that the Semantic web is dead.
>
> I don't usually post on this list because it is almost always above my head, but I thought this would be a good place to ask these questions. I could try Autocat, but I thought this would be a more applicable list.
>
> Anyway, the full article is here:
> http://www.semantico.com/2011/09/triple-bypass-what-does-the-death-of-the-semantic-web-mean-for-publishers/
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Thank you so much for sharing this. I have been one of the "XML is best" 
guys, and that RDF is just so incredibly complicated that it can be used 
only with a great deal of trouble--in fact, so much trouble that I have 
wondered how any organization can really implement it.

The idea of "microdata", which is much easier to implement, seems to me 
to be a very logical extension of Cataloging in Publication. I think 
catalogers could really get into it and find a real niche as they begin 
to understand the different ramifications of the concept "Search Engine 
Optimization". (I wrote on this a bit on Autocat a few months back, 
where I discussed Eric Hellman's impressive talk. See 
http://catalogingmatters.blogspot.com/2011/07/library-data-why-bother-by-eric-hellman.html)

There are lots of problems with the current version of microdata 
however. For a cataloger, a look at the full hierarchy that they have 
created is a great place if you need a laugh! 
http://schema.org/docs/full.html. Codes for "AutoPartsStore" and 
"ComedyEvent"???!!! It's just too good to be true!

Still, I have thought there would be a great place for libraries in the 
area of extending it. The site 
http://schema.org/docs/gs.html#microdata_how says,
"3d. Extending schema.org
Most sites and organizations will not have a reason to extend 
schema.org. [Hahahahahahahahahaha! - JW] However, schema.org offers the 
ability to specify additional properties or sub-types to existing types. 
If you are interesting in doing this, read more about the schema.org 
extension mechanism." It can be extended, so that is critical and saves 
the entire project.

Naturally, microdata will be spammed by the webmasters in all kinds of 
ways, just as the "<meta>" area was before, with the result that the 
search engines had to ignore all of  the information there. I think 
there will be great demand for library services which can supply a 
necessary and very desired area of *trust*--that is, if we play our 
cards right.

It would be so great if libraries could start building their own search 
engine that could take advantage of these tools. Maybe Hathitrust would 
be a good place to start... if it survives?

-- 
James Weinheimer  weinheimer.jim.l_at_gmail.com
First Thus: http://catalogingmatters.blogspot.com/
Cooperative Cataloging Rules: http://sites.google.com/site/opencatalogingrules/
Received on Wed Oct 12 2011 - 13:22:24 EDT