Re: Cataloging Matters Podcast #12

From: James Weinheimer <weinheimer.jim.l_at_nyob>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 08:22:49 +0200
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
On 11/08/2011 23:51, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
<snip>
> But this historical idea of a bibliography hand-crafted by an expert 
> on a particular topic -- it is highly unrealistic to think that such a 
> bibliography can be created for every possible topic a user may be 
> interested in. In the 21st century (heck, even in the 20th century), 
> the point of the field of 'information retrieval', building systems to 
> answer user queries, is trying to make a system that can start from a 
> large corpus, and assemble what we could call a 'bibliography', a 
> subset of that corpus matching the user's query. Matching on full text 
> if we have it, matching on controlled vocabulary if we have it, etc. 
> Of course, this assembled subset is not going to be as good as a human 
> expert created bibliography. It's really disrespectful to call it a 
> 'bibliography' at all, except by analogy. But the idea that there will 
> be human expert maintained bibliographies created and kept up to date 
> for every possible research topic a user may be interested in -- is 
> simply a weird luddite fantasy.
</snip>

I don't know if what I was actually suggesting was to create an infinite 
number of bibliographies by hand. I am suggesting a way to generate 
bibliographies, i.e. something more useful for the public, from our 
catalogs. Does each have to be "hand crafted"? No, not necessarily, but 
some could be. But I am sure there are ways of searching call numbers, 
and subject headings, etc. that is far beyond the capabilities of almost 
anyone, into something that would be useful for our patrons, instead of 
expecting each patron to become some kind of expert searcher on his or 
her own. Such an expectation seems to me to be the *real* Luddite 
fantasy. A very quick and dirty way of doing something like a 
bibliography would be to automatically limit by call number ranges, e.g. 
I would like to search only the books classed under "chess" or classed 
under the English Civil War. As we all know, such a call number range 
would not be perfect and would miss materials in other areas and subject 
headings. Expert queries could bring those in and this is a task that 
users cannot be expected to do.

If this is "disrespectful", then that is unfortunate for those who feel 
disrespected, but it is necessary. If it is disrespectful to the concept 
of "bibliography" itself, then too bad--the concept can learn to deal 
with it. When we are considering new ideas, we must be willing to throw 
out all our previous beliefs to at least give the new ideas a beginning, 
otherwise everything ends up stillborn. If we can agree on a few facts: 
a) that the information that is really and truly available to people 
goes far beyond any local library, and b) be realistic enough to admit 
that few people will learn how to use a catalog to its fullest 
potential, plus c) the public will almost never ask for help but will 
just turn to Google, a business tool which will continue to make people 
happier and happier (without necessarily providing better or more 
reliable information), this seems to be defining a downward spiral.

How can we create something that people want? One way would seem to be 
by helping to clear away the irrelevant materials to a person's search 
for them, or in other words, by creating a bibliography. For the 
searcher, it has to be done sooner or later if you are going to get a 
decent result. If librarians/experts don't provide substantial help, 
they are just foisting that job onto the shoulders of those who have 
much less knowledge and experience to do it: our patrons. And this is 
one reason why they don't like our catalogs.

As Ross points out, there is the possibility of semantic searching which 
promises to be incredibly powerful. And people need to know what would 
exist in the journal databases, open archives, and the open web. 
Bringing these materials together would require a lot of innovative 
thinking along with collaboration. But it would be something that our 
users would want and use, that would be available nowhere else. As Ross 
mentioned, Mendeley could be an important part of this.

-- 
James Weinheimerweinheimer.jim.l_at_gmail.com
First Thus:http://catalogingmatters.blogspot.com/
Cooperative Cataloging Rules:http://sites.google.com/site/opencatalogingrules/
Received on Fri Aug 12 2011 - 02:25:13 EDT