Re: dates

From: James Weinheimer <weinheimer.jim.l_at_nyob>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:10:04 +0200
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
On 26/07/2011 17:37, Laval Hunsucker wrote:
<snip>
> Yes, _dates_ !
>
> Interesting issue. The kind of thing you mention can indeed be
> annoying. Perhaps even more so in the case of something like,
> say, the Epic of Gilgamesh, 2001 :-).
>
> But *which*, and how many, dates would or should a catalog
> record give ?  And how ?
</snip>

FRBR provides date attributes for the work, expression and 
manifestation, but strangely, not for the item--something I am sure that 
makes sense somehow but the reasoning has always escaped me. It seems 
that if there is anything you really could provide a date for, it should 
be for the physical item you can hold in your hand. But... ?

I've always thought that traditional cataloging and MARC were relatively 
poor on dates, since there are lots of possible dates for metadata, 
including effective date of research (although something is published in 
2011, the actual work on the resource finished in 2008 or 2009).

A lot depends on what you want the catalog to do. Currently, it is 
designed along Cutter's guidelines (from 1876!) 
http://library.music.indiana.edu/tech_s/manuals/training/catalog/cutter.html. 
Objective 3H was always sort of lost in the discussion, but the catalog 
certainly is designed to do everything else there.

When we add more "objectives" onto this list, the whole edifice begins 
to groan. For instance, a question such as "What do you have by 
19th-century women authors from Holland?" (a more realistic question 
from a patron instead of others I have read) cannot be answered by the 
traditional catalog since it is not designed to do so. Best would be to 
suggest for people to browse the shelves for 19th century Dutch 
literature, looking for female names, but browsing has its own problems 
and this would not be using the catalog, but the arrangement of books. 
The absolute best would be *IF* you could find a reference work that 
lists women authors from the 19th century in Holland and to search each 
one from the list. In other words, suggest that the users do lots of work.

That is the traditional answer, but today it is possible for different 
databases to interoperate, so that a database of authors, limited to 
Holland, 19th century, female, could work in conjunction with our 
catalogs, or another database that may have the dates of specific works, 
such as Gilgamesh or Homer.

Catalogers no longer have to do everything from scratch--their systems 
can work with all kinds of other projects out there. This is what a 
next-generation library catalog should do, and, I think that if a 
database does not already exist, there would be many people from the 
scholarly community and/or the general citizenry who would be very happy 
to help create these kinds of databases.

-- 
James Weinheimer  weinheimer.jim.l_at_gmail.com
First Thus: http://catalogingmatters.blogspot.com/
Cooperative Cataloging Rules: http://sites.google.com/site/opencatalogingrules/
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