Re: Bill Clinton: Create Internet agency

From: john g marr <jmarr_at_nyob>
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 11:11:34 -0600
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
On Fri, 20 May 2011, James Weinheimer wrote:

> Ex-President Bill Clinton has suggested the creation of some kind of agency 
> that would "be independent" to seek out and "correct" factual errors on the 
> Internet, and has come under a lot of criticism for it, with critics calling 
> it a "truth regulator" or a "Ministry of Truth" etc.

  Thank you for bringing up this topic, Jim. Libraries could also be 
scapegoated as "truth regulators" or "Ministries [interesting word in 
several contexts] of Truth" by those [perhaps few but powerful] who would 
prefer to run society with distortion and use fear mongering to do it.

  The issues, of course, are to consider *how* such a concept could be 
implemented for the benefit of all, and to avoid being frightened away 
from considering the positive possibilities.

> But he makes a valid point with: "Somebody needs to be doing it, and maybe 
> it's a worthy expenditure of taxpayer money ... I don't believe that 
Bill Clinton was suggesting any kind of censorship ...

  That fact that the media (Internet included) in being used to to 
considerable effect to manipulate people in contradiction to generating 
substantive and constructive conversations is indeed a valid observation.

  I especially like Mr. Clinton's willingness to use the word "maybe" to 
encourage discussion. He's correct, of course- we need to run a government 
that informs people and educates them in how to "separate the wheat from 
the chaff" (Hmmm, today must be Metaphor Day), and that may be all it 
needs to do, which would, of course, obviate any need for censorship.

>  As I have mentioned in several posts, one "user need" that I have heard 
> requested very often, from little children to advanced researchers, is 
> the need for selection.

  Actually, people do no need information "selected" for them, they just 
(and justly) need to be taught how to recognize and avoid manipulative 
presentations, such as by becoming familiar with fallacies and biases of 
thought and expression, and by applying critical thinking rather than 
allowing themselves to be manipulated.

> People are gradually becoming suspicious of Google and its algorithms 
> (at last!)

  It is about time, absolutely! We should have been suspicious at the very 
beginning when Google insinuated itself into our daily language (and 
library pages) as a word meaning "search." We simply can't allow ourselves 
to be manipulated like that and remain constructively critical.

> private, for-profit corporations are vulnerable to all kinds of 
> manipulation from the public, from their competitors, and from all kinds 
> of forces in the world.

  Um, that seems a little counter-intuitive. Actually, private, for-profit 
corporations are the ones (certain ones) doing the manipulation *of* the 
public, their competitors, and all kinds of forces in the world.

> Their business aim of "make the customer happy" is not always the 
> same as telling people the truth.

  Exactly. In fact, it is a deception. Has no one noticed the gradual 
disappearance of that old adage "The customer is always right" by the 
"Barnum Concept" (you must be familiar with the Barnum Concept, so I 
won't repeat it)?

> Besides, people still find a lot of junk in the search results of Google 
> and Yahoo while missing a lot at the same time.

  Sure, you could say that is the fault of the junk itself ("Let's get rid 
of it!"), but it is actually the fault of the society (e.g. educational 
system, libraries, and media) for not teaching people how to think 
critically instead of just leaving them to enjoy "entertainment" above 
responsibility.

> It would be much more like Citizendium, written by experts ...

  Ah, there's the rub!  Who can decide what constitutes expertise and who 
an "expert" is (and how), and can people be manipulated into making 
mistakes? Compare, just as an example, without prejudice but with critical 
thinking, Wikipedia with Conservapedia.

> Clinton's idea is to build a place to verify facts.

  An excellent idea, and the examples given are excellent. Of course, 
"verification" itself is a touchy subject, subject to manipulation as much 
as the "facts". so people need to be taught how to recognize language that 
is manipulative and dismiss it and "facts" taken out of context or other 
wise distorted.

> Naturally, librarians would be important parts of this....

  Excellent point, Jim. That says it all!

Cheers!

jgm
  John G. Marr
  Cataloger
  CDS, UL
  Univ. of New Mexico
  Albuquerque, NM 87131
  jmarr_at_unm.edu
  jmarr_at_flash.net


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