Re: Bill Clinton: Create Internet agency

From: Laval Hunsucker <amoinsde_at_nyob>
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 10:46:20 -0700
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
I gladly second much of what Todd Puccio stated, and 
stated well, earlier in this thread.

But further :

> . . . to advanced researchers, is the need for selection.
. . .
> Naturally, librarians would be important parts of this....

I keep hearing you ventilate this notion, as obviously is 
your good right. There have of course been others before 
you, many of them surely. The basic idea of course goes 
much further back. As far if not further than e.g. Herbert 
Baxter Adams ( in _The Johns Hopkins University studies 
in historical and political science_, 5th series, 11, 1887, p.
17 ). The 'locus classicus' would almost have to be p.118 
in José Ortega y Gasset's "Misión del bibliotecario" 
( 1935 ), published later in _Actas y trabajos del II 
congreso internacional de bibliotecas y  bibliografía, 
Madrid-Barcelona, 20-30 de mayo de 1935_ (Madrid : 
Barbazán, 1949). But, to the extent that those who have 
advanced the notion were not themselves librarians, as 
far as I can tell they were dealing in pious and in their 
views rather innocent flatteries dished up to groups of 
librarians. ( In the first above-cited instance it was e.g. a
historian addressing the ALA, in the second a philosopher 
addressing IFLA. ). If what you are talking about is the 
selecting in general of what should come to the attention 
of a creative researcher/scholar, then I doubt in fact 
whether there's a competent and self-respecting scholar or 
researcher anywhere who would really agree. At least, that's 
my impression ( and hope ), as one not only who in all 
modesty reckons himself as belonging to that category but 
who in any case has spent an entire adult lifetime 
professionally associating with many hundreds of those 
who unquestionably do belong to it, in many fields and in 
numerous countries ( though alas never, I admit, at e.g. the 
American University of Rome, where things theoretically 
could be different ).

> . . . while private, for-profit corporations are vulnerable 
> to all kinds of manipulation . . .

It is certainly not my experience that not-for-profit 
organizations or units therein ( including libraries ) are 
any less vulnerable to all kinds of manipulation than 
are private, for-profit corporations. Perhaps they are 
even more vulnerable.


- Laval Hunsucker
   Breukelen, Nederland




----- Original Message ----
From: James Weinheimer <weinheimer.jim.l_at_GMAIL.COM>
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 4:09:51 PM
Subject: [NGC4LIB] Bill Clinton: Create Internet agency

Ex-President Bill Clinton has suggested the creation of some kind of agency that 
would "be independent" to seek out and "correct" factual errors on the Internet, 
and has come under a lot of criticism for it, with critics calling it a "truth 
regulator" or a "Ministry of Truth" etc. 
http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=bill+clinton+internet
<http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=bill+clinton+internet>
> (a more neutral article is at Politico) 
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54951.html

But he makes a valid point with: "Somebody needs to be doing it, and maybe it’s 
a worthy expenditure of taxpayer money.” As I have mentioned in several posts, 
one "user need" that I have heard requested very often, from little children to 
advanced researchers, is the need for selection. People are gradually becoming 
suspicious of Google and its algorithms (at last!), while private, for-profit 
corporations are vulnerable to all kinds of manipulation from the public, from 
their competitors, and from all kinds of forces in the world. Their business aim 
of "make the customer happy" is not always the same as telling people the truth. 
Besides, people still find a lot of junk in the search results of Google and 
Yahoo while missing a lot at the same time. But let's face it: people find a lot 
of junk in libraries and miss a lot there too, but the perception is completely 
different.

I don't believe that Bill Clinton was suggesting any kind of censorship, but 
more of a "reliable space" to find out what the current thinking is on certain 
topics. This is not a new idea, but was suggested by H.G. Wells in his book 
"World Brain" where he suggested the idea of the World Encyclopedia. Here is an 
article where he wrote about the Encyclopedia 
https://sherlock.ischool.berkeley.edu/wells/world_brain.html
Wells did not foresee the Internet, and compared his encyclopedia it to the 
Britannica, but I am sure he would agree that the Internet would certainly make 
it far easier. His idea was not like Wikipedia, although many have suggested it. 
It would be much more like Citizendium, written by experts, but still with 
important differences since according to Wells, articles would be written 
differently, with sections (summaries) for different readers in mind: 
researchers to journalists to interested laymen to children.

When looked at in this way, I think that everybody would like it because it 
would be designed with everyone in mind, and if the true global collaboratory 
powers of the Internet could be used today, plus significant government funding 
to keep it independent, I would agree with Bill Clinton: it would be a worthy 
expenditure of taxpayer money. Of course, Clinton's idea is to build a place to 
verify facts. There are some sites like that now, http://www.factcheck.org/, 
http://www.politifact.com/, http://www.snopes.com/ and 
http://www.opensecrets.org/ are the ones that I know. Some would include 
Wikileaks in this list but I doubt if he would. I think more is necessary, but 
his idea would be a good first step.

Naturally, librarians would be important parts of this....

-- James L. Weinheimer  weinheimer.jim.l_at_gmail.com
First Thus: http://catalogingmatters.blogspot.com/
Cooperative Cataloging Rules: http://sites.google.com/site/opencatalogingrules/
Received on Sun May 22 2011 - 13:47:08 EDT