Re: Practical solutions (Was: Publishers and ebooks)

From: john g marr <jmarr_at_nyob>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 13:00:18 -0600
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Hi James:

  Did Rome burn or is it still standing? So, who did the *better* job of 
applying Critical Thinking (1) to the potential of an earthquake yesterday 
and (2) to how best to deal with the possibility-- the seismologist, the 
media, the people who fled, or those people who stayed?


On Thu, 12 May 2011, James Weinheimer wrote:

> When one side of a debate is focusing on practical matters and the other 
> focuses on theory, it is difficult to find common ground.

  True-- the old "apples vs. oranges" contradiction. I'd say that Critical 
Thinking provides a *practical* method of evaluating the *practicality* of 
theories and statements ranging from dogma to "working hypotheses."

> using critical thinking ... is highly time consuming

  How much time did it take you to decide not to vacate Rome?

> and will quickly founder in the ocean of reality.

  Actually, Critical Thinking is the only practical way to interpret 
"reality" and comprehend the depth of the ocean in order to keep from 
foundering. Think of it as a tool.

  Let's say you are planning to take a long vacation involving lots of 
driving on back roads where potential hazards and unfamiliar conditions 
may exist and your car may not function perfectly. That is a situation 
that parallels life and thinking in a complex society full of 
misinformation and deception. So, wouldn't you want to take along a map 
and a tool-kit, perhaps even a car repair manual and a GPS unit? Add 
Critical Thinking to your life-kit, and you can have some understanding of 
your emotional and cognitive surroundings and a fuller appreciation of the 
diversity of possibilities in order to prevent damage of all kinds to 
yourself and others.

> if I want to vote for a candidate ... and ... [have] issues I am 
> concerned about ... I need to know something about [the issues] to make 
> a decent vote. But the evidence [relating to complex issues can be] 
> extremely technical and dependent on all kinds of people and complex 
> technology all over the world.

  Critical thinking focuses on the way issues are addressed, not on the 
details of them.

  This is quite a common scenario, where the obvious distracts from the 
subtle. Critical Thinking re. politics doesn't ask one to collect facts on 
issues, it gives one tools to permit one to evaluate the candidates as to 
whether they may be uninformed, blindly dogmatic, entirely 
self-interested, and/or possessed of ulterior motives, *OR* engaged in 
testing "working hypotheses." and trying [!] to make "deeply informed 
decisions."

  Specific issues immediately at hand are often employed as distractions 
just to arouse emotional responses (and are very often in conflict with 
one another). The issues, then, have far less significance that the nature 
of the thought-processes engaged in by the candidates.

> if we say that critical thinking ... is "the" or "a" solution for 
> libraries [esp. in the selection process] ...we would not be providing 
> our patrons a service they want, and we are throwing it on their 
> shoulders.

  First, a competent selection process has to derive from Critical Thinking 
about all the factors involved (patron interests, budget, time, etc.). The 
critical thinking simply assures that all the factors are considered *and* 
accepts and explains the conclusion that any decision may be an incomplete 
compromise, adequate only in so far as it can be implemented at the time 
it takes place.

  2nd, people who expect others to do their thinking for them need to be 
shown how to think for themselves. For example, the limitations of 
"library selection" need to be clearly explained. Our society is run by 
people who insist that we let them do our thinking for us *because* we 
have been trained to believe that we can't get involved (e.g. haven't 
time) in improving the society. In fact, improving the society should be 
everyone's dominant paradigm, not stepping-back to see if others will do 
it for them.

  People need to do a lot of information "selection" for themselves in our 
highly manipulated society, which requires extremely judicious use of any 
social structures that may imply folks should *expect* others to do their 
thinking for them.

> Google and its imitators will be more than happy to step into this breach.

  Take any self-interested entity, or those with any tendency to seek power 
and control over others. It's all about animal instincts (and brain 
structure). Critical Thinking can give people tools to discern instinctual 
(or even psychopathic) behaviors and rhetoric toward self-serving ends 
from practical "working hypotheses."

> Thus, it would be a step toward oblivion for libraries ... my opinion!

  Libraries are already oblivious in many ways :) [from being self-focused] 
-- my opinion!

  Critical Thinking requires that we examine ways to avoid oblivion [and 
obliviousness], not accept it as certain.

  If a librarian teaches how to obtain information and how to interpret the 
emotional and practical nature of it, is he/she still a librarian? If 
there will always be some information and data that can only be obtained 
from within library buildings, can libraries become obsolete? What could 
libraries and librarians do to help make sense of information if they do 
no longer needed to be custodians of material?

  How about leaving the "horse-and-buggy-failure" paradigm behind and 
instead be positive: suggest ways libraries can change to meet the modern 
challenges our society faces, e.g. the destruction of society by 
manipulated information and data.

  It's no longer enough to just push out "information"-- not only is the 
practice inherently inefficient due to the mass of data available and to 
how much of it is manipulated and manipulative, it is misleading in 
implying that it is efficient. What is needed these days is individual 
instruction in how to interpret what we see and hear (e.g., might it 
*possibly* be one-sided and manipulative, or part of a responsible 
"working hypothesis"?).

> [That library oblivion is possible] is not the opinion of someone who 
> has never worked with any of these issues before.

  Lots of people who have never worked in libraries already think libraries 
are obsolete. They aren't applying Critical Thinking either, but we could 
teach them to participate in the solution instead of being part of the 
problem. After all, it is *their* problem if libraries close-- the 
ever-resourceful librarians will surely be able to find new means of 
employment ... won't they (in corporate libraries, perhaps :))?

> And sorry, but "The statement that "none of us can take the time to learn 
> everything to make deeply informed decisions" is a statement of absolute, 
> 100% fact." is completely true in a practical sense.

  Then God help those of us who are depending on those who are trying to 
take the time to learn everything to make deeply informed decisions.

  "Practically" speaking, such an assumption is not only counter-intuitive 
but counterproductive. It is suggesting that we stop trying to learn, not 
stating a fact. The points required are to not discourage people from 
thinking and to distinguish thoughtful statements from deceptive ones.

  Demagogues already claim to know everything (or at least everything that 
is of any importance), and, since they do not make "deeply informed 
decisions", they could use the *statement* as a justification for telling 
us to stop thinking altogether.

   Others, *practically*, engage in seeking knowledge following "working 
hypotheses" (to the extent they can apply time to do so) and make 
"decisions" which are as "deeply informed" as "practical."

> We must cooperate and rely on others for help, for information, for 
> advice and many other needs.

  Exactly, except "collaborate" might be a less-loaded way of putting it 
than "cooperate." Trouble, is there presently no one out their teaching 
*how* to collaborate, or even *how* to distinguish "cooperation" from 
obeisance.

> Critical thinking is good and important for individuals, but it *cannot* 
> be seen as any kind of solution for libraries.

  I don't' see it as a solution to library problems, I see it as a 
responsibility of purveyors of information.

> Insisting on it is a refusal to deal with the problem of people needing 
> help with selection.

  Insist on applying Critical Thinking to define and resolve the problem in 
terms of "people needing help with selection" as a "working hypothesis."

> If critical thinking is to occur, it will take place in the hearts and 
> minds of individuals

  If they become aware of it and the need for it.

> but those same persons will nevertheless have no choice but to rely on 
> all kinds of experts for all kinds of needs.

  Quite alright, as long as sufficient skepticism of ulterior motivations 
is afoot to prevent false self-proclaimed "experts" from dominating 
society.

  Our informed but material society is a lot stronger now than when 
Pharaohs and Caesars and Napoleons and Goebbels ran the lives of their 
subjects. Unfortunately, materialism itself (along with Glenn Beck, the 
Koch brothers, etc.) has become the universally accepted authority figure 
perpetuating and sometimes enforcing the disarming belief that "We don't 
have time to think!"

> This is nothing new, it is nothing bad, it is part of being human

  The worst part of being human is rushing forth into self-slaughter like a 
"lower" animal; the best part is being able to think about it and put on 
the brakes.

>  I am involved in mankind.
>  And therefore never send to know for whom
>  the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

  Every time
  I turn on the radio
  Or read the news
  The bell tolls anew.

  But in rings in a forest
  Of distracted people
  Where no one hears
  Or will take the time
  To listen
  Or critique the tune.

Cheers!

jgm

  John G. Marr
  Cataloger
  CDS, UL
  Univ. of New Mexico
  Albuquerque, NM 87131
  jmarr_at_unm.edu
  jmarr_at_flash.net


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