Re: Watson - IBM's "question-answering" machine (potential implications for libraries?)

From: Mark Huppert <Mark.Huppert_at_nyob>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:28:35 +1100
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
The main reason to have library staff available
to answer questions has nothing to do with such
high-falutin' stuff.  The users need to know local
policies and procedures, status of aquisitions budgets,
sort out administrative errors, find out the local geography - 
meeting rooms, toilets, etc.

regards

Mark

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Next generation catalogs for libraries 
> [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph P. Montibello
> Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 1:43 AM
> To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] Watson - IBM's "question-answering" 
> machine (potential implications for libraries?)
> 
> Laval wrote "...What we in the future shall have librarians for  ( if
> anything )  is another question...  "
> 
> Tough question.  Why do we need librarians?
> 
> Do people come to libraries to get a question answered? 
> Sometimes, although
> I'd guess less frequently than they used to.
> 
> How about to ask an expert? Unless they're asking a 
> library-science related
> question, the experts probably don't work at the library. 
> People can ask an
> expert directly by trying to find them on the internet, i.e. doctors
> participating in online interactions with people who aren't 
> their patients
> in the traditional sense.   	
> 
> People doing research want answers for their questions, 
> certainly, but part
> of what they want is to engage. They don't just want to be 
> told an answer by
> an expert, they want to formulate their own opinion based on 
> input from lots
> of experts. I think this type of person is the one mostly 
> likely to be still
> using libraries - if all they wanted was a fact-check or a 
> doctor's email
> address, they could have stopped coming to the library long 
> ago. Probably
> should have stopped coming, if they had decent internet 
> access and really
> only wanted these limited things.
> 
> If I have a question about the Salem witch trials, I can ask 
> a bunch of
> historians and wait for an answer. There's probably also a 
> decent bit of
> information about the topic on Wikipedia. But if I'm interested in the
> trials, and what it was like, that doesn't boil down to a 
> question that
> someone can answer. I want to read The Crucible.  I want to 
> read histories
> about the trials.  I want to read original documents that 
> come from the time
> period, with some helpful annotations to explain the bits 
> that don't make
> sense to me. I want to get into the information about this 
> topic and swim
> around. A librarian can help me do that.
> 
> I don't know if this is useful at all, but the other reason to ask a
> librarian is that they're cheap, easy to find (how far from 
> that desk are
> they really likely to stray?), and they have to be polite to 
> you. It would
> suck if you're into the witch trials and you send emails to a bunch of
> experts, and they all ignore you or brush you off.  They 
> can't put as much
> time and effort into answering every hobbyist's questions as 
> they will into
> publishing (however, wherever they do it), and it wouldn't 
> make sense if
> they did.  But when I used to do a lot of reference and instruction, I
> always tried to get across to the users (students, in my 
> case) that we're
> there to help them. Save the time of the reader, and all that.
> 
> This is just my two cents.
> 
> Joe Montibello, MLIS
> Library Systems Manager
> Dartmouth College
> 603.646.9394
> joseph.montibello_at_dartmouth.edu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laval Hunsucker [mailto:amoinsde_at_YAHOO.COM] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Watson - IBM's "question-answering" machine (potential
> implications for libraries?)
> 
> I don't exactly follow you, Jim. You wrote :  
> 
> > But questions that demand more thought and require a deeper  
> > understanding will (I hope!) always be asked and I don't see how a  
> > computer can answer those.
>  
> But wait, Thomas did write ( and you even quoted him ) "To 
> get a question
> answered you look it up on the web or you ask an expert." And 
> that latter
> resource is where one would ( and surely should ) go 
> precisely in cases of,
> as you put it, "questions that demand more thought and 
> require a deeper
> understanding". The hope you here express ( that such questions will
> continue to be put ) will certainly not prove futile, but I 
> can't in my
> wildest fantasies imagine why anyone would choose to put such 
> questions to a
> librarian rather than to an expert.
> 
> Isn't that what Thomas was more or less already -- and quite 
> rightly --
> saying ?  He wasn't positing that computers will be answering 
> *that* kind of
> questions ;  that's, among other things, what we've got ( and 
> have always
> had ) experts for.
> 
> What we used to have *librarians* for is likewise fairly well 
> known. What we
> in the future shall have librarians for  ( if anything )  is another
> question.  I've in the past offered my own thoughts on that, 
> for whatever
> they may be worth, also on this list. So have others. They 
> can be found in
> the archives.
> 
> 
> 
> - Laval Hunsucker
>    Breukelen, Nederland 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Weinheimer Jim <j.weinheimer_at_AUR.EDU>
> To: 
> Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 9:35:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] Watson - IBM's "question-answering" machine
> (potential implications for libraries?)
> 
> Thomas Krichel wrote (concerning http://nyti.ms/g6J9Xe):
> <snip>
>   B.G. Sloan writes
> 
> > What if we had sophisticated affordable "question-answering"
> > machines in ten years? What would that mean for libraries?"
> 
> Why would that make any change? The idea that people go to 
> see librarians to
> get questions answered is already many years out of date, 
> isn't it? To get a
> question answered you look it up on the web or you ask an expert.
> </snip>
> 
> This  is absolutely correct: the future is with us now! The number of
> reference questions asked has tumbled and there is no reason 
> to think  that
> this will change anytime soon.
> 
> Of course, almost no question  has a single "correct" answer, 
> except for
> questions such as, how tall  is Mt. Everest, or, Lincoln 
> belonged to the
> Democratic Party--true or  false? Almost every substantive 
> question has
> several possible answers.  For example, a question I was 
> asked once pops
> into my mind: 
> Does  communism lead inevitably to Stalinism? Hard to answer 
> with a yes or
> no!  
> There is no single "correct" answer.
> 
> So, the traditional  reference questions termed "ready-reference" are
> probably already gone  from the reference desk. But questions 
> that demand
> more thought and  require a deeper understanding will (I 
> hope!) always be
> asked and I  don't see how a computer can answer those. The 
> traditional
> library ideal  that the librarian furnishes the searcher with
> information--in an  unbiased manner--(or at least so far as is humanly
> possible) will still  be needed, so that people can examine 
> various ways of
> looking at an area  of concern to them, and each can finally 
> arrive at his
> or her own,  personal version of "the truth".
> 
> How librarians can help people  achieve this sort of ideal in 
> a networked,
> virtual environment remains  to be seen however, but this 
> would seem to me
> to be some of the more  interesting of the various challenges we face.
> 
> James Weinheimer  j.weinheimer_at_aur.edu
> Director of Library and Information Services The American 
> University of Rome
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