ONIX data

From: Cory Rockliff <rockliff_at_nyob>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:54:41 -0500
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
It sure sounds useful; not having made use of ONIX data myself, I 
wouldn't know whether it would be worth the trouble. Which leads me to 
wonder--for those who are using ONIX as a supplementary source of data 
(i.e. not simply in order to generate a minimal MARC record):

1. Which ONIX fields do you find valuable?
2. How consistent are publishers in their use of ONIX fields?

The Open Library project makes use of ONIX data, doesn't it? (BTW, I'm 
having a hard time finding the OL schema file. The link on this page 
isn't working for me: http://openlibrary.org/about/schema)

On 12/22/10 2:09 PM, Karen Coyle wrote:
> There was talk of an aggregation service, and Bowker seems to run one, 
> as does a site called BNC Biblioshare (http://www.biblioshare.org/). I 
> don't think that the publishers charge for their data, but both of 
> those sites seem to want to keep control over who gets it, at least by 
> requiring passwords. If having more feeds of the type at the Internet 
> Archive would be useful, I think it would be worth suggesting that and 
> maybe forming a partnership around the idea. I believe that the feeds 
> for most large publishers are automated at this point.
>
> kc
>
> Quoting Cory Rockliff <rockliff_at_BGC.BARD.EDU>:
>
>> There isn't any one (preferably free) centralized source for ONIX 
>> data, then, is there? Will individual publishers make their "vendor" 
>> data services available to individual libraries if asked?
>>
>> C
>>
>> On 12/22/10 9:37 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>> Here are two links that will get you to a bunch of ONIX data. A 
>>> search should pull up other publishers:
>>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/details/onix_harpercollins
>>> http://www.archive.org/details/onix_thomasnelson
>>>
>>> kc
>>>
>>> Quoting Ted Koppel <tpk_at_AUTO-GRAPHICS.COM>:
>>>
>>>> Eric,
>>>>
>>>> First off, go to the Editeur web site, specifically looking at ONIX 
>>>> for
>>>> Books. Grab the 3.0 documentation ZIP file.
>>>> http://www.editeur.org/93/Release-3.0-Downloads/#Documentation - It 
>>>> has
>>>> three PDFs enclosed.
>>>>
>>>> Remember that ONIX was developed by and for the publishing 
>>>> industry, so
>>>> most(all) of the data elements are publisher produced.
>>>>
>>>> The Data_Elements.PDF is pretty much a brief schema. The real meat is
>>>> in the Format_specification document.
>>>>
>>>> In particular, the following data elements might be of interest:
>>>> P11.5 Illustrations yes/no
>>>> P11.6 Number of illustrations
>>>>
>>>> P15.2 and P15.3 Cited content - what media has cited this item
>>>>
>>>> P15.5 Bestseller lists item has appeared on
>>>> P15.6 Highest rank of bestseller list
>>>>
>>>> P.17 (entire section) - what prizes title has been awarded, and when
>>>>
>>>> P18.6-P18.8 Page run for textual material
>>>>
>>>> There are lots of other goodies as well.
>>>>
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Next generation catalogs for libraries
>>>> [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Eric Lease Morgan
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 2:16 PM
>>>> To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>>>> Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] our profession's bibliographic information
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 21, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Ted Koppel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is a long book a better book?
>>>>
>>>> A longer book is not necessarily, but the length of a book (or just
>>>> about any other bibliographic item) is directly related to the 
>>>> amount of
>>>> time a person can spend "consuming" it. Length is directly related 
>>>> other
>>>> expenses a person needs to spend in order to use the item effectively.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Why not look at (and adapt) the ONIX Specification P.11, P.15, and
>>>> P.17 data constructs, that deal with quantitative measures like the
>>>> number of illustrations, the number of prizes awarded, etc., to a 
>>>> title.
>>>>
>>>> 'Sounds like a good idea to me! Tell us more.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Eric Morgan
>>>> University of Notre Dame
>>>>
>>>> "Take the Great Books Survey -- http://bit.ly/auPD9Q"
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