Thomas Klingler said: "But Bernie....Eric didn't say the "catalog" needs to do more. He said "discovery systems" need to do more."
Eric said: "Library 'discovery systems' and/or CATALOGS (emphasis mine) are designed to organize and provide access to the materials outlined above, but they need to do more."
I was just commenting on the use of the word "catalog".
Bernie Sloan
--- On Tue, 8/31/10, KLINGLER, THOMAS <tk_at_KENT.EDU> wrote:
> From: KLINGLER, THOMAS <tk_at_KENT.EDU>
> Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] discovery systems need to do more
> To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 2:39 PM
> But Bernie....Eric didn't say the
> "catalog" needs to do more. He said "discovery
> systems" need to do more. I see the discovery system as
> another system or layer that's not the catalog. From
> where I sit, the content in the catalog is just one of the
> buckets that the discovery layer will tap into. Other
> buckets include the repositories, the ETD centers, the
> e-journal centers, etc. In some ways it's sad that the
> catalog and the discovery layer are not / likely won't
> be the same thing. But the discovery layer will
> provide broad searching, faceted retrieval, social network
> hooks, massive pre-indexing, integrated federated searching,
> etc. that some of us can't mash into our existing
> catalogs...
>
> Tom Klingler
> Kent State
> Chair, OhioLINK Discovery Layer Task Force
>
>
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Next generation catalogs for libraries
> >[mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU]
> On Behalf Of B.G. Sloan
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:18 PM
> >To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> >Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] discovery systems need to do
> more
> >
> >Just to clarify what I said a little bit, I'm thinking
> that the core
> >design principles of library catalogs are based on
> managing "silos" of
> >physical materials. As Brian Kennison said:
> "Format/location doesn't
> >matter any more. If we can, we need to break down silos
> of information."
> >Are library catalogs the right tool for the job?
> >
> >I first asked this general question 18 years ago on the
> old PACS-L
> >list...long enough ago that I had a BITNET address for
> my e-mail. The
> >subject line was: "The Post-OPAC Era", and I ended the
> posting by
> >asking: "should we be trying to retool the OPAC to play
> a broader role
> >that might perhaps be better filled by developing
> gateway technologies
> >(WAIS, Internet gopher, etc)?" Granted, my examples of
> "developing
> >gateway technologies" are now ancient history, but you
> get my drift. :-)
> >
> >Bernie Sloan
> >
> >--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Brian Kennison <KennisonB_at_WCSU.EDU>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Brian Kennison <KennisonB_at_WCSU.EDU>
> >> Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] discovery systems need to
> do more
> >> To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> >> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 1:50 PM
> >> On 8/31/10 1:13 PM, "B.G. Sloan"
> >> <bgsloan2_at_YAHOO.COM>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I know there are exceptions to what I just said,
> but I'm
> >> thinking that the core design principles of
> library catalogs
> >> are based on the need to manage physical
> collections?
> >>
> >> The problem is ( and has been ) that "physical"
> objects
> >> provide only a fraction of information that your
> patron is
> >> in need of and is willing to use and as a
> proportion of
> >> available information is getting smaller all the
> time.
> >> Format/location doesn't matter any more. If we
> can, we
> >> need to break down silos of information. That
> doesn't mean
> >> you couldn't have a catalog that provided added
> value to
> >> physical objects but it's got to be discoverable
> in the
> >> user's normal work flow (not that I know what that
> is but
> >> Google comes to mind ).
> >>
> >> The other thing I think Eric was trying to get at
> is "open"
> >> content. If libraries can provide both access to
> these types
> >> of materials AND value-added services on top of
> this access
> >> we would be providing significant service to our
> patrons.
> >>
> >> While there are a lot of good people working on
> tools and
> >> services I don't think any body has all the tools
> they need.
> >> I think a contributing problem is that lack of
> majority of
> >> the profession to recognize the urgency of this
> matter and
> >> lack of support for this vision both in their
> commitment of
> >> resource and time.
> >>
> >> Mean while Eric, I guess we just keep plugging
> away.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Brian Kennison
> >> Western Connecticut State University
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
Received on Tue Aug 31 2010 - 14:52:09 EDT