Quoting Todd Puccio <puccio_at_NOVA.EDU>:
>
> The user decides. The user has the dollar. If the user is willing to pay
> for a 3mb/s upload service why should anyone care if it for medical x-rays
> or feline musicians ?
I care, and I care deeply. I care because having more money does not
mean that your actions are "good". Nor are they neutral. There is a
concept of public good that we are rapidly losing if we really think
that it's ok for youtube to take precedence over rural medical care or
public education, or anything else that may not have the money to
compete with Google.
When Google says: "Don't be evil," they measure good/evil by the
popularity of their services. If users flock to youtube, then it isn't
evil, and they can prove it with the numbers. I happen to have a
non-quantitative view of good and evil -- the biggest, the richest,
the "winners," etc., are not necessarily = good.
kc
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:09 AM
> To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] Google/Verizon policy framework
>
> Quoting Kyle Banerjee <banerjek_at_UOREGON.EDU>:
>
>>
>> We rely on many services, and declaring them all equal has the effect
>> of hosing valuable services in the name of protecting them. Wanting to
>> believe that enough capacity is out there to make prioritization
> unnecessary
>> does not make it true.
>
> Kyle, generally I agree. But if just ONCE a youtube video of a cat
> playing the piano gets priority over a medical xray, then *my* worst
> fears will have been played out. It's not whether some services should
> take precedence, but who decides. In a society where money talks, and
> where no public entity is as powerful as a big corporation, the only
> solution seems to be to not allow any preferences to be allowed.
>
> kc
>
>
>>
>> Our professional paranoia is a major contributing factor to our
>> marginalization. We are obsessed with g-men coming in to find out what
> books
>> someone checked out, but we don't sweat the fact that the vast bulk of the
>> information people use (i.e. google, amazon, netflix, FB, meebo, just
> about
>> everything else on the web, their CC transactions, etc) is far more
>> extensive and contains far more interesting info because they need it to
> be
>> able to provide what people actually want.
>>
>> kyle
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:29 PM, john g marr <jmarr_at_unm.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Lovins, Daniel wrote:
>>>
>>> I haven't studied it closely enough myself yet, but here's Larry
> Lessig's
>>>> take, courtesy of the New York Times:
>>>>
> http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2010/8/9/who-gets-priority-on-the-web/a
> -deregulation-debacle-for-the-internet
>>>>
>>>
>>> Here's a tiny url for that and its several associated links:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/23w6c5u
>>>
>>> IMHO, everyone is overlooking the basic issue that the legal system
>>> addresses, i.e. the interests of economic expansion [i.e. profit
> generation]
>>> always override personal concerns (e.g. the "good" to society of the
> former
>>> override the non-economic "rights" [e.g. freedom of expression] of the
>>> latter).
>>>
>>> IMHO (do I have to keep saying that?), it is time for the provision of
>>> information to be considered a vital public service, rather than a form
> of
>>> entertainment or data being a restrictable commercial commodity, and for
>>> ISPs to be designated "public utilities" subject to the same levels of
>>> government oversight as other "utilities." Or, maybe the Government can
> be
>>> the ISP for the US and we can receive Internet access as a "right" via
> our
>>> tax forms.
>>>
>>> Still there will always be the problem of who controls the corporations
>>> and/or the governments at any particular time. We seem to be evolving
>>> toward some sort of restructuring of both those concepts, which, I
> suspect,
>>> will do a great deal of harm in the process until the madness of
>>> misdirection is recognized.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> jgm
>>>
>>> John G. Marr
>>> Cataloger
>>> CDS, UL
>>> Univ. of New Mexico
>>> Albuquerque, NM 87131
>>> jmarr_at_unm.edu
>>> jmarr_at_flash.net
>>>
>>>
>>> **There are only 2 kinds of thinking: "out of the box" and "outside
> the
>>> box."
>>>
>>> Opinions belong exclusively to the individuals expressing them, but
>>> sharing is permitted.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Kyle Banerjee
>> Digital Services Program Manager
>> Orbis Cascade Alliance
>> banerjek_at_uoregon.edu / 503.999.9787
>>
>
>
>
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