Re: Book-scanning projects - a question

From: Ed Jones <ejones_at_nyob>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 08:26:09 -0700
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
I think you clicked on "Google" under "Find a copy in the library" (which links to the default Google Books search page) rather than "Google" under "Find a copy online" (which links to the page for this book in Google Books). Since the book was published in 1943, its contents are still protected by copyright and so not accessible.

Ed Jones 

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From: Next generation catalogs for libraries [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Tim Watters
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:29 AM
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] Book-scanning projects - a question

Matt,

How many of those 4.8 million records link to another copy of the bib record on a different server but never let the user actually see the document? I entered the following search into WorldCat through Connexion Client:

cs=oclce li:googl au:michigan dept

I looked at a random sample and did not find a single one of the resulting bib records describing an accessible electronic resource. They just point to the same bib record on Google servers instead of OCLC servers. The fact the people can look for print versions in libraries is irrelevant because the print bib records were already in WorldCat and these e-records are not for print materials. My question is: Why does OCLC create bib records that just send the user to a metadata hall of mirrors without ever getting an actual document?

Example:

This is the bib record for the print:

http://zzz.ee/?i=h14 

This is the bib record for the Google Books e-version:

http://zzz.ee/?i=h13 

What is the purpose of the second record? Is it representative of all 4.8 million? When I click on "find a copy online" why does it not find a copy online?

Thanks,

Tim W.

"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -- Einstein

Tim Watters
WattersT_at_michigan.gov
Special Materials Cataloger
Library of Michigan
702 W. Kalamazoo St.
P.O. Box 30007
Lansing, MI 48909-7507
517-373-3071

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Tim,

This is done by software created by OCLC staff. Using the OCLC# sent to us for the physical record we locate that record and create a record for the digitized version. As of late last week over 4.8 million records had been created for Google and Hathi trust records. Since we are syncing daily with these repositories it is a process that needs to be done by machine to be scalable and sustainable.

Matt

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From: Next generation catalogs for libraries [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Tim Spalding
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] Book-scanning projects - a question

Matt,

When you say OCLC creates the MARC records, do you mean OCLC itself
creates them, or OCLC members?

Tim

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Goldner,Matt <goldnerm_at_oclc.org> wrote:
> Julia,
>
> OCLC creates the MARC records for Google and syncs with both Google and
> Hathi Trust. New records are added every day to WorldCat from both
> repositories. Currently there are over 4.5 million e-book MARC records
> in WorldCat.
>
> Regards,
> Matt Goldner
>
>
> Matthew R. Goldner
> Product & Technology Advocate
> OCLC, Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
> 614.764.6405
> goldnerm_at_oclc.org 
> http://www.oclc.org  http://worldcat.org
Received on Tue Jul 13 2010 - 11:26:43 EDT