Re: Are MARC subfields really useful ?

From: Laval Hunsucker <amoinsde_at_nyob>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:04:53 -0700
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Alexander Johannesen wrote :  

 >> I'm not sure inertia is the only answer.
> . . .
> Paired with little money and poor support
> from the real world? So many to choose
> from ...

Alex isn't making any choices or prioritizing any 
answers . . . -- . . . But, is it reasonable to expect 
even more money, or better support, from the real 
world when we've been wasting so much of its 
money and inherently compromising so much of 
its support for so long ?

No. There has to be a really big ( mental ) sea 
change -- ideally accompanied by an obviously 
and openly ingenuous contrition -- and a whole 
lot of subsequent good PR, *in the discourses 
of that real world*. 

In my opinion.

Have we got it in us, collectively ?  No, I don't 
really think so. Fat chance.

Business as usual is so very much easier. So I'd 
say :  Enjoy it while you can !
( *Why* do images of Nero fiddling keep popping 
into my mind ?? )

But then no gnashing of teeth or lamentations 
later, please, over the rude awakenings which are 
awaiting us down the line.


- Laval Hunsucker
   Breukelen, Nederland




----- Original Message ----
From: Alexander Johannesen <alexander.johannesen_at_GMAIL.COM>
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 12:41:29 AM
Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] Are MARC subfields really useful ?

Hola,

>> The tower of rigidness it turned into is now the tower of Babel for
>> the library community,

Bernhard Eversberg <ev_at_biblio.tu-bs.de> wrote:
> Not sure if this is a fitting metaphor: MARC has become the very
> language of catalogers almost the world over, across the barriers of
> "natural" language!

Well, in its context it makes sense ; after the tower of Babel people
couldn't talk to *others*, so the library world is cramming itself
into *one* language while the rest of the world extends into a
multitude. But yes, I could have made that more obvious. :)

> Any system with verbal tags couldn't achieve that,
> and you also couldn't create a verbally coded alternative to beat MARC
> because it couldn't beat its short-hand-like brevity as well as its
> internationality.

Careful, now; there's plenty of old and new systems and formats that
are comparable to MARCs brevity and internationalization; DIB, SureX,
SGML, mBBS, and probably hundreds of other formats that have their
pro's and con's throughout computing history ...

>> Ugh, and I don't know if this is
>> salvageable.
>
> Has anyone come up with a practicable alternative, together with an
> economically viable migration path, including the rewiring of all
> those brains?

The things that need to happen ;

* Vendor products needs more generic models
* ILS need identity management for the real world
* ILS needs AARC2 / RDA rules as validation, and tightened for the real world
* Libraries and their systems around the world needs to KILL
presentation in MARC
* Libraries need to demand more from their vendors (get guts)
* Libraries need to work out how their meta data is relevant to the world
* Libraries and vendors need to come up with (or reuse) a format the
rest of the world wants to learn or is already using

Some of this has bits done, but there's a LOT that needs to happen.

> OTOH, all systems being capable of exporting MARC, a thoroughly
> convincing and comprehensive new solution shouldn't have too difficult a
> time to penetrate the market. Why hasn't it happened yet? I'm not sure
> inertia is the only answer.

Stupidity? Lack of guts? Fear of change? Lack of guts? Paired with
little money and poor support from the real world? So many to choose
from ...


Regards,

Alex
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