Re: The Dewey Dilemma

From: Karen Coyle <lists_at_nyob>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:29:04 -0800
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Quoting Tim Spalding <tim_at_LIBRARYTHING.COM>:


>
> In LT's case, the problem was that a core of us, and the people I
> asked to lead it, agreed on a high number of top-level categories. We
> felt that "container categories"--categories that really only existed
> to hold a number of other ones, and which weren't concepts people
> really glommed onto—should be kept to a minimum. The model here was
> bookstores, which are okay with putting "games" and "sports" somewhere
> near each other, without having a "recreation" category you need to
> navigate first. A lot of "systemmatizers" didn't like this—they kept
> fighting for a small number of top level categories a la Dewey, and
> wanted to find low-level slots for what are, in bookstores, top-level
> concerns (ie., putting the "pets" section way down the chain in some
> science > biology section).

It's actually comforting how universal this disagreement is. :-)

It was this tension between Dewey (an inveterate systematizer) and the  
"give it to me now" folks that gave us the weird world of classified  
books on shelves that could only be found using LC subject headings in  
the online catalog. Dewey's idea was that the catalog was to be  
classified, and the entry to that was his "Relativ Index", which is an  
index of terms. So you would look something up in the Relativ Index  
then go to that place in the catalog. There you would discover what  
the library had under that topic, and could browse up (broader) or  
down (narrower). Of course, in Dewey's day, stacks were closed. I  
don't know how this became a book-on-the-bookshelf ordering system.

But we don't have an index to the classification we use for the  
shelves, we use an entirely different system for the "give it to me  
now" index function: LCSH. The upshot is that we have two different  
ordering systems that have pretty much nothing to do with each other  
(either DDC + LCSH, or LCC + LCSH), and I can understand why the users  
are confused.

BTW, I have recently run into this tension with the re-working of the  
W3C web pages. It used to be that the home page had everything on it  
in a long, alphabetical list (RDF, SKOS, OWL, XML, etc.) and you could  
go directly there. Now the home page gives you categories  (Web  
Design, Semantic Web, Web of Services...) and you have to guess which  
one has what you are looking for. If you want RDF you have to go to  
Semantic Web, then Linked Data ... The systematizers have hijacked the  
web site, and now I can't find anything. *sigh*

kc

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