On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <rochkind_at_jhu.edu> wrote:
> Not quite, I don't think. I believe that FAST breaks down (un-coordinates)
> and normalizes LC authorities, it doesn't just use existing LC authorities.
> id.loc.gov just lists authorities. I don't think they are the same?
You are right, they're not the same at all. Note:
http://tspilot.oclc.org/fast/fst01354710
vs.
http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh95005568
FAST also adds a new subdivision, "Event", which is what you're seeing here.
-Ross.
>
> Beacom, Matthew wrote:
>>
>> The LC authorities and vocabularies project at
>> http://id.loc.gov/authorities/ is pretty much a SKOS-based FAST version of
>> LCSH.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Next generation catalogs for libraries
>> [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:01 PM
>> To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] Tim Berners-Lee on the Semantic Web
>>
>> Turn it into FAST instead?
>>
>> I wish those working on FAST would write publically about what they're
>> doing, but I've been unable to persuade them to do so.
>>
>> Ed Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> LCSH is a pre-coordinated system designed for the card catalog,
>>> generating discrete coherent quasi-hierarchical strings intended to be read
>>> from left to right. Even the MARC coding is primarily designed to arrange
>>> subject cards in proper order for filing in that card catalog. LCSH is our
>>> legacy data and necessarily has at least sentimental value to those of us
>>> who grew up amidst its intricacies, but I'm increasingly unsure what we can
>>> do with it now other than use it to produce an online card catalog. The
>>> more we try to squeeze it into the Procrustean Bed of an online
>>> database--for which it was never designed--the more we seem to distort it.
>>>
>>> Ed Jones
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Next generation catalogs for libraries
>>> [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Dan Matei
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:11 PM
>>> To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>>> Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] Tim Berners-Lee on the Semantic Web
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Karen Coyle <lists_at_kcoyle.net>
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:24:19 -0800
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Order is complicated in LCSH (as is everything else ;-)). In a given
>>>> heading, the order that the subfields are written in the MARC record is
>>>> the order that must be retained. In some cases, changing the order actually
>>>> changes the meaning of the heading. HOWEVER, the order does not give you
>>>> the facet type. So in some faceted systems, you have a fixed number of
>>>> facets and they are always in the same order:
>>>>
>>>> topic / place / time / genre (or something like that)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Some facets are not properties of the topic, but of the indexed
>>> resources.
>>>
>>> In the card catalogue time, it made sense (to me) to coordinate a topic
>>> with a genre (say). But now ? I would prefer (at browsing) to select a topic
>>> and then the system to offer me a faceted browsing on genres.
>>>
>>> For instance, not:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> $aInternational Congress of Writers for the Defense of Culture$n(1st
>>>> :$d1935 :$cParis, France)$vFiction.
>>>>
>>>
>>> but:
>>>
>>> International Congress of Writers for the Defense of Culture$n(1st
>>> :$d1935 :$cParis, France)
>>>
>>> Fiction: n1
>>> History: n2
>>> etc.: n3
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Received on Tue Nov 03 2009 - 16:22:32 EST