Re: Summon

From: Till Kinstler <kinstler_at_nyob>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:03:32 +0200
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Edward M. Corrado schrieb:

> I am 
> pretty sure they index full text when it is available, but they don't 
> display it for license reasons. 

That's what we do in Suchkiste, too (in many cases it's unclear what we 
are allowed to do with fulltexts, so we decided not to display anything 
at all, no preview, no hits highlighting, but index them). Some think, 
that may confuse users because they can't comprehend why they got 
certain hits. But, hey, you may get "better hits" that way... We haven't 
tested that, yet. But what do you think?

> Yes Summon is using Solr. Not sure how much hardware you need but I'm 
> sure I could get my hands on it if needed with today's prices. It's 
> amazing what size datasets you can deal with these days.

Yes, sure. But I doubt a lot of libraries (at least in Germany) could 
handle that. We are running an Solr index of about 22,000,000 records 
plus some fulltexts on hardware you can get around the corner (even on a 
virutal machine it was still usable). But you need that. And someone to 
care for it and the software.
I think, there is no big market for that data. We provide all metadata 
we have in Suchkiste (at the moment these roughly 22,000,000 records 
covering journal articles and ebooks, still growing) as (free as in free 
beer!) download (for institutions that participate in the german DFG 
Nationallizenzen program, which is free for them as well). Normalized 
(that is really dirty work) in a format suitable for german library 
systems (MAB2, we are using internally something different, but we must 
offer this official exchange format). There are only two or three 
libraries (out of hundreds that are entitled to) really using that data 
for something.

> I don't see Serials Solutions as going for that level

I meant: Throw away your OPAC, when you import 400 million records into 
it. Not throw it away because there is Summon now.
The Dartmouth user interface does not replace an entire OPAC, sure. But, 
I think, you may replace your OPAC data backend by Summon. Place your 
frontend and services (loan, ILL, access to electronic Content) in front 
of it (of course you need a smart user interface for that), and you get 
a really nice tool, don't you? Then add Worldcat data, add library or 
user specific ranking or views, ...

By the way: How often and how are library records updated in Summon?

Regards,
Till

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Till Kinstler
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Received on Fri Jun 19 2009 - 03:04:47 EDT