Re: A fundamental question we seem to be dancing around

From: B.G. Sloan <bgsloan2_at_nyob>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:05:42 -0800
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Allowing for searching at the article/chapter level, or even smaller levels, assumes that this granular level of data exists in the catalog record. In many (most?) cases it does not.

Does this mean we'd have to do a massive data conversion project?

Bernie Sloan

--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Nicole Engard <nicole.engard_at_LIBLIME.COM> wrote:

> From: Nicole Engard <nicole.engard_at_LIBLIME.COM>
> Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] A fundamental question we seem to be dancing around
> To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 9:52 AM
> Well practically, every library does need it's own
> inventory system -
> so if the catalog serves both purposes, than each library
> needs it's
> own - but philosophically - I'm all about sharing a
> worldwide catalog
> to rule them all :)  Also, I think that each
> library/consortia
> probably need their own catalog because they should have
> the power to
> customize their systems as much or as little as they want
> to - making
> the decision to limit libraries based on a global decision
> doesn't
> seem right to me ... maybe I'm just too optimistic :)
> 
> I think that catalogs should be as granular as possible -
> like we said
> the technology is there, so why not allow for searching at
> the
> article/chapter level? Or even smaller levels?
> 
> ---
> 
> Nicole C. Engard
> Open Source Evangelist, LibLime
> (888) Koha ILS (564-2457) ext. 714
> nce_at_liblime.com
> AIM/Y!/Skype: nengard
> 
> http://liblime.com
> http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Dobbs, Aaron
> <AWDobbs_at_ship.edu> wrote:
> > Agreed, the technology is available.
> >
> > The deeper questions remain:
> >
> > How local does the catalog need to be?
> > Does *every* library need its own catalog?
> > --(beyond an inventory control mechanism)
> >
> > How granular does the catalog need to be?
> > Monograph/Serial Title? Chapters? Articles? Formulae?
> Paragraph? Word?
> >
> > How many discovery layer instances do there need to
> be?
> > --1 per large consortia? 1 per small consortia?
> State-wide? Nation-wide?
> > --1 discovery layer instance to rule them all, and in
> the darkness bind them?
> >
> > How much local customization of a record describing a
> common item is needed?
> > --(this one is thorny due to current practice. imo, a
> mass published item record should also be common in content
> and three subject headings might not be sufficient, would
> tagging work in a large enough system or would the noise
> ratio be too high?)
> >
> > -Aaron
> > :-)'
> >
> > "Education is what survives when what has been
> learned has been forgotten."
> > -B. F. Skinner
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Next generation catalogs for libraries
> [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Nicole Engard
> > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:26 AM
> > To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] A fundamental question we seem
> to be dancing around
> >
> >> What is "the catalog"?
> >
> > What it is and what it should be are two different
> things - my answers
> > to what it should be below.
> >
> >> Should/can the catalog be a broad discovery layer?
> >
> > YES
> >
> >> Should/can the catalog be an authoritative
> inventory tool?
> >
> > YES
> >
> >> Should/can the catalog be a one-stop tool for both
> discovery and inventory as described above?
> >
> > Why the heck not?  We have the technology now to build
> this type of
> > discovery tool - so why can't the catalog be an
> inventory tool and a
> > comprehensive finding tool?
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Nicole C. Engard
> > Open Source Evangelist, LibLime
> > (888) Koha ILS (564-2457) ext. 714
> > nce_at_liblime.com
> > AIM/Y!/Skype: nengard
> >
> > http://liblime.com
> > http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Dobbs, Aaron
> <AWDobbs_at_ship.edu> wrote:
> >> What is "the catalog"?
> >> Which, to me, breaks out in at least the following
> three directions:
> >>
> >> Should/can the catalog be a broad discovery layer?
> >> -Inclusive of all of an individual libraries
> informational holdings?
> >> -Inclusive of [all or many or a distinct subset
> of] libraries information?
> >> -Inclusive of article/chapter/phrase level data?
> >> -Inclusive of availability data?
> >>
> >> Should/can the catalog be an authoritative
> inventory tool?
> >> -Inclusive of authoritative known-item searches
> down to every MARC tag level?
> >> -Inclusive of all of an individual libraries
> informational holdings?
> >> -Inclusive of [all or many or a distinct subset
> of] libraries information?
> >> -Inclusive of article/chapter/phrase level data?
> >> -Inclusive of availability data?
> >>
> >> Should/can the catalog be a one-stop tool for both
> discovery and inventory as described above?
> >>
> >> -Aaron
> >> :-)'
> >>
> >> PS also not rhetorical questions :)
> >>
> >> Success is getting what you want.
> >> Happiness is wanting what you get.
> >> -Dale Carnegie
> >>
> >


      
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