Re: Search/retrieve access is to library data what Gopher was to the web?

From: Alexander Johannesen <alexander.johannesen_at_nyob>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:27:34 +0200
To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 15:47, Karen Coyle <lists_at_kcoyle.net> wrote:
> Oh, we have and we do. Come on over to:
>  http://dublincore.org/dcmirdataskgroup/

Good stuff. Have you got library *and* vendor support for this?

> and check out the preliminary schemas and vocabularies at:
>  http://metadataregistry.org

Briefly looked through them, and some of them look good, but you need
better structured and clearer instructions. I liked the honorific list
of entities (albeit empty and broken links), and this is a cool
example of what could be namespaced and sprinkled over other stuff.

In the Topic Maps world we often talk about persistent identity. If
the NSDL registry can have some authoritive declarative powers, then
you've at least got a function to do some identity through. I know
Conal Tuhoy in NZ have a cool and similar tool to work with dynamic
naming and identity control.

By far the most important thing is your announcement ;

   http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind0802&L=dc-general&P=535

I wished that I was still in the library world, and I would jump all
over it. This is important work, and I urge people to get at least a
basic understanding of what this all means.

> Yes, this is based on RDA -- for now.

Well, you gotta begin somewhere. If you can make vocabs for those
areas in which RDA suffers, then perhaps by hauling in the generics of
RDA over time you can dump the prose and rely on RDA as a living
ontology. Would make it so easy for RDA ontology aware processors and
apps to work with it. It's probably your best bet forward.

> As this develops, we will hopefully come up with a broad set of defined data
> elements that can be mixed, matched, and used in many different application
> profiles. It's step #1 in getting us beyond MARC.

I'm glad to see the project, although I suspect you need a lot of
promo to make it clear what this means and what it is. Currently "To
define components of the draft standard 'RDA - Resource Description
and Access' as an RDF vocabulary for use in developing a Dublin Core
application profile" doesn't mean jack to most people. Using
"controlled vocabulary" is something that I think a lot of librarians
can get behind.

The next step is to go beyond just list of words to concepts and
models, because that's where the real value is. Good stuff.'


Alex
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