Well, the question is where are you going to get those MARC records. It
sounds to me like those records are going to be in worldcat. So if you
want to download them from OCLC per your usual methods and prices of
downloading cataloging records from OCLC, I suspect will be able to. I'm
not sure if that's what you were looking for though.
Jonathan
Steven Harris wrote:
> I still wonder if it means I can add MARC records to my catalog for those Google books that are in the public domain.
>
> --Steven Harris
>
>
>
> Steven R. Harris
> Collection Development Librarian
> 435-797-3861
> http://collections2point0.wordpress.com/
>
>>>> Jonathan Rochkind <rochkind_at_JHU.EDU> 05/21/08 2:57 PM >>>
>>>>
> It's an ongoing question as to whether and when libraries can share
> exactly what records that came from or went to OCLC legally. Nobody
> really knows. There is an OCLC "expectations" document which isn't
> exactly clear in the first place, and even if it was nobody really knows
> if it's legally binding, or what legally binding contractual or IP
> restrictions there may be on sharing records involved in Worldcat, when
> you are an OCLC cataloging member. But regardless of legality, most of
> our employers either a) believe that being good library community
> members is doing what OCLC wants even if not legally required, or b) are
> scared of not doing what OCLC wants even if not legally required.
>
> So I read this as OCLC saying "Now you have our permission." OCLC would
> probably like everyone to believe that they needed that permission. But
> nobody really knows. [And incidentally, in return for that permission,
> which we may or may not have needed, OCLC seems to have gotten other
> data from Google that Google did not need to share, but shared in
> exchange. Odder and odder.]
>
> Oops, but I realize now that isnt' even the question you asked. It's the
> one I was thinking of though. :) I _think_ that the records OCLC is
> sharing with GBS are going to be used to fill out metadata for books
> digitized by library partners for GBS. So for this purpose, Google would
> only need records from GBS libraries. If Google wanted to use the entire
> worldcat corpus to fill out their metadata for all GBS books, even those
> not scanned by partner libraries, would OCLC share those records? I
> seriously doubt it. OCLC sees that corpus as an important and unique
> 'business' advantage. (When OCLC's 'business' needs conflict with the
> interests of its' member-owners---it's up to our administrators to bring
> that up with OCLC if they think that is so. We own OCLC.)
>
> Jonathan
>
> Bruce Brigell wrote:
>
>> This paragraph of the release confuses me:
>>
>> Under terms of the agreement, OCLC member libraries
>> participating in the Google Book Search(tm) program, which makes the
>> full text of more than one million books searchable, may share their
>> WorldCat-derived MARC records with Google to better facilitate discovery
>> of library collections through Google.
>>
>> Does this imply that only those who have provided books to be scanned
>> into GBS will be included --or do you think that all libraries with
>> WorldCat holdings for items that have been scanned into GBS will be
>> displayed??
>>
>> Anyone have any insight into this?
>>
>> Bruce Brigell
>> Coordinator of Information Services
>> Skokie Public Library
>> 5215 Oakton Street
>> Skokie, IL 60077
>> 847/324-3142
>> 847/673-7797 [fax]
>> bbrigell_at_skokielibrary.info
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Next generation catalogs for libraries
>> [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of B.G. Sloan
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:18 PM
>> To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>> Subject: [NGC4LIB] OCLC to share bib records with Google
>>
>>
>> "OCLC and Google Inc. have signed an agreement to exchange data that
>> will facilitate the discovery of library collections through Google
>> search services."
>>
>> http://www.oclc.org/news/releases/200811.htm
>>
>> Bernie Sloan
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jonathan Rochkind
> Digital Services Software Engineer
> The Sheridan Libraries
> Johns Hopkins University
> 410.516.8886
> rochkind (at) jhu.edu
>
>
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Jonathan Rochkind
Digital Services Software Engineer
The Sheridan Libraries
Johns Hopkins University
410.516.8886
rochkind (at) jhu.edu
Received on Wed May 21 2008 - 15:56:35 EDT