On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <rochkind_at_jhu.edu> wrote:
> It's an ongoing question as to whether and when libraries can share
> exactly what records that came from or went to OCLC legally. Nobody
> really knows. There is an OCLC "expectations" document which isn't
> exactly clear in the first place, and even if it was nobody really knows
> if it's legally binding, or what legally binding contractual or IP
> restrictions there may be on sharing records involved in Worldcat, when
> you are an OCLC cataloging member. But regardless of legality, most of
> our employers either a) believe that being good library community
> members is doing what OCLC wants even if not legally required, or b) are
> scared of not doing what OCLC wants even if not legally required.
>
> So I read this as OCLC saying "Now you have our permission." OCLC would
> probably like everyone to believe that they needed that permission. But
> nobody really knows. [And incidentally, in return for that permission,
> which we may or may not have needed, OCLC seems to have gotten other
> data from Google that Google did not need to share, but shared in
> exchange. Odder and odder.]
>
> Oops, but I realize now that isnt' even the question you asked. It's the
> one I was thinking of though. :) I _think_ that the records OCLC is
> sharing with GBS are going to be used to fill out metadata for books
> digitized by library partners for GBS. So for this purpose, Google would
> only need records from GBS libraries. If Google wanted to use the entire
> worldcat corpus to fill out their metadata for all GBS books, even those
> not scanned by partner libraries, would OCLC share those records? I
> seriously doubt it. OCLC sees that corpus as an important and unique
> 'business' advantage. (When OCLC's 'business' needs conflict with the
> interests of its' member-owners---it's up to our administrators to bring
> that up with OCLC if they think that is so. We own OCLC.)
Do we? The board is now going to made up of 6 people from membership out of
a total of 13 to 17 members.
Edward
>
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> Bruce Brigell wrote:
>
>> This paragraph of the release confuses me:
>>
>> Under terms of the agreement, OCLC member libraries
>> participating in the Google Book Search(tm) program, which makes the
>> full text of more than one million books searchable, may share their
>> WorldCat-derived MARC records with Google to better facilitate discovery
>> of library collections through Google.
>>
>> Does this imply that only those who have provided books to be scanned
>> into GBS will be included --or do you think that all libraries with
>> WorldCat holdings for items that have been scanned into GBS will be
>> displayed??
>>
>> Anyone have any insight into this?
>>
>> Bruce Brigell
>> Coordinator of Information Services
>> Skokie Public Library
>> 5215 Oakton Street
>> Skokie, IL 60077
>> 847/324-3142
>> 847/673-7797 [fax]
>> bbrigell_at_skokielibrary.info
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Next generation catalogs for libraries
>> [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of B.G. Sloan
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:18 PM
>> To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>> Subject: [NGC4LIB] OCLC to share bib records with Google
>>
>>
>> "OCLC and Google Inc. have signed an agreement to exchange data that
>> will facilitate the discovery of library collections through Google
>> search services."
>>
>> http://www.oclc.org/news/releases/200811.htm
>>
>> Bernie Sloan
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Jonathan Rochkind
> Digital Services Software Engineer
> The Sheridan Libraries
> Johns Hopkins University
> 410.516.8886
> rochkind (at) jhu.edu
>
Received on Wed May 21 2008 - 15:52:02 EDT