I would encourage people to share these problems with Google, if they
can figure out a way to....
I have talked a bit with the current project manager for Google Books
API, and he does seem genuinely interested and concerned with issues.
Jonathan
Henrik Lindström wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We have just implemented links to Google Book Search in the Swedish National Union Catalog, LIBRIS. Since earlier, we have covers from different providers - of which the largest is Nielsen. We have discovered that the covers from these providers and those from Google to some extent complement each other, although for many titles the same cover is available from both sources. However, the covers from the Google Books API are only thumbnails, and in general of lower quality than the covers we already have. Therefore the Google covers are only displayed when no others are available.
>
> Regarding the different types of preview, we choose to distinguish between the "partial" and "full" previews on the one hand, and the "noview", on the other. The two former are presented as links in the title presentation, analogue to how we present links to freely accessible resources, whereas for books with "noview", the Google-links are only displayed in the right column under "Search outside LIBRIS".
>
> We also discovered the problem, described by Janes, that the script stops the loading of the page. We tried an AJAX workaround, but that got stuck in Google's security precautions, resulting in a 401-response. The solution we choose was to make sure that the Google-script is the last thing to be added to the page when loading.
>
> Some examples:
>
> "Full preview" + cover from Google: http://libris.kb.se/bib/2174999?language=en
>
> "Partial preview" + cover from Google: http://libris.kb.se/bib/4717070?language=en
>
> "No preview" + cover from Nielsen: http://libris.kb.se/bib/10361389?language=en
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Henrik Lindström, for the LIBRIS project group
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> Henrik Lindström
> Programmer/web developer
> Department of LIBRIS
>
> Kungl. biblioteket/National Library of Sweden
> Mail: Box 5039, SE-102 41 Stockholm
> Visits: Biblioteksgatan 29, Stockholm
> Phone: +46 8 463 40 00
> Fax: +46 8 463 40 04
> E-mail: henrik.lindstrom_at_kb.se
> www.kb.se
>
>
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Från: Next generation catalogs for libraries [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU] För Thomas Arendall-Salvetti
> Skickat: den 15 maj 2008 20:35
> Till: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Ämne: Re: [NGC4LIB] Integrating Google Book Search content into OPACs
>
> <SMACK> A hundred librarians just slapped their foreheads and cried out:
> "Why didn't we think of this first?".
>
> Great idea, Susan. Open WorldCat has a stable system for generating the
> URLs for its citations. That makes it possible for other libraries to
> mechanically generate links to those citations and insert them into the
> catalog.
>
> This is Web 2.0 at its best. OCLC generates useful information
> (citations) and makes it easy for others to get to it (stable,
> predictable URLs)... and then other people (libraries) use the
> information in unexpected, wonderful ways.
>
> There is hope!
>
> Thomas Arendall-Salvetti
> Reference/Instruction Librarian
> Langsdale Library
> University of Baltimore
> 1420 Maryland Avenue
> Baltimore, MD 21201
> 410-837-4275
> tarendall-salvetti_at_ubalt.edu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Next generation catalogs for libraries
> [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Susan Fipps
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:38 AM
> To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] Integrating Google Book Search content into OPACs
>
> Jonathan,
>
> The citations feature is just a link to the Worldcat "Cite This Item"
> link which is shown within its title page information. We just post it
> in a separate link. Susan
>
> Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
>
>> How are you providing the citations feature? Do you have your own
>> in-house code that formats citations, or are you using some other
>> product or library?
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> Susan Fipps wrote:
>>
>>> Shannon,
>>>
>>> I can give you a general idea of how the PALNI test enhancements
>>>
> work.
>
>>> A combination of javascripting (based loosely on the Google Books API
>>> examples) and PHP have been used to develop this combination of
>>>
> links,
>
>>> so there is some server-side programming involved. We are looking at
>>> re-writing the whole set of scripts so right now it is in a state of
>>> flux as we experiment with what is possible and useful to our
>>>
> consortial
>
>>> libraries. The citations link appears to be particularly popular
>>>
> with
>
>>> students. The code first looks for an Amazon book cover and if it
>>> doesn't exist, then goes to Google to check. It could end up
>>>
> focusing
>
>>> just on Google book covers depending on Amazon's restrictions and how
>>> those evolve. From Google we check for a general link to the
>>>
> material
>
>>> (Google button), check for Google full-text or sample pages
>>>
> information
>
>>> (Preview button), check for a WorldCat record (WorldCat button and if
>>> so, link to the citation if available (Citation button). The table
>>>
> of
>
>>> contents (Contents button) comes from PALNI bibliographic records
>>>
> where
>
>>> it is included. The code is independent of a particular ILS. We use
>>>
> Ex
>
>>> Libris Aleph OPAC. Susan
>>>
>>> Shannon Shi wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Susan,
>>>>
>>>> Could you tell us more about the methods you used to achieve this?
>>>> The Cite
>>>> this button is very cool. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Shannon
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Next generation catalogs for libraries
>>>> [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Susan Fipps
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:58 AM
>>>> To: NGC4LIB_at_LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>>>> Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] Integrating Google Book Search content into
>>>> OPACs
>>>>
>>>> Hilary,
>>>>
>>>> We have implemented in the OPAC links to Google Books, Amazon,
>>>> WorldCat,
>>>> and table of contents (this in particular derived from PALNI
>>>> bibliographic records where the contents exist). The results page
>>>> shows
>>>> these links when relevant to the material. We are looking at
>>>>
> inclusion
>
>>>> on full-display screens as well. Here is an example URL:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
> http://hickory.palni.edu:4505/F/?func=file&file_name=find-b&local_base=p
> lnhu
>
>>>> p
>>>>
>>>> We are using a combination of methods to achieve this test
>>>>
> enhancement
>
>>>> to our OPACs. Regards, Susan
>>>>
>>>> Kraus, Hilary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ... As we determine how best to implement this feature for our
>>>>>
> users,
>
>>>> we're
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> looking for examples of OPACs that have added buttons or links for
>>>>>
> the
>
>>>>> Google content; if those OPACs also have links to content from
>>>>> additional providers, so much the better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Hilary Kraus,
>>>>> DePaul University Libraries
>>>>> I-Share Users' Group OPAC Team
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Susan R. Fipps: M.L.S. -- Systems Analyst Voicemail: 137
>>>> Department: Information Systems Email: susan_at_palni.edu
>>>> Company: INCOLSA, 6202 Morenci Trail, Indianapolis, IN 46268
>>>> Voice/TTD: 317.298.6570 or 800.733.1899 (in-state only)
>>>> Fax: 317.328.2382 URL: http://www.palni.edu
>>>> "Delete: Bathwater. Undelete: Baby."
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>> Susan R. Fipps: M.L.S. -- Systems Analyst Voicemail: 137
>>> Department: Information Systems Email: susan_at_palni.edu
>>> Company: INCOLSA, 6202 Morenci Trail, Indianapolis, IN 46268
>>> Voice/TTD: 317.298.6570 or 800.733.1899 (in-state only)
>>> Fax: 317.328.2382 URL: http://www.palni.edu
>>> "Delete: Bathwater. Undelete: Baby."
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Rochkind
>> Digital Services Software Engineer
>> The Sheridan Libraries
>> Johns Hopkins University
>> 410.516.8886
>> rochkind (at) jhu.edu
>>
>
> --
> ________________________________________________________________
> Susan R. Fipps: M.L.S. -- Systems Analyst Voicemail: 137
> Department: Information Systems Email: susan_at_palni.edu
> Company: INCOLSA, 6202 Morenci Trail, Indianapolis, IN 46268
> Voice/TTD: 317.298.6570 or 800.733.1899 (in-state only)
> Fax: 317.328.2382 URL: http://www.palni.edu
> "Delete: Bathwater. Undelete: Baby."
>
>
--
Jonathan Rochkind
Digital Services Software Engineer
The Sheridan Libraries
Johns Hopkins University
410.516.8886
rochkind (at) jhu.edu
Received on Fri May 16 2008 - 09:41:59 EDT