Personally, I think the options are fight like hell—which can be very frustrating—or do an end run. To me, the latter would mean write code at night until you're confident you have something people might want. Quit your job and work on it full time. Tim > How do we get some innovation started? (Not a rhetorical question) > > Bernie SloanReceived on Sun Jan 06 2008 - 18:14:21 EST