On 6 Dec 2007, at 17:14, Karen Coyle wrote:
> Aha! It took me a while to get this, because I'm so used to dealing
> with
> fixations. But you mean that the performance itself is a
> manifestation.
> In that sense, it does make sense that it can be a manifestation. Then
> the recording you have as as manifestation of the work. I *might* code
> it as a manifestation of the performance.
you could do that, and that might have some uses. I chose instead to
add the "recorded at" relationship as recordings made in a studio are
unlikely to have a performance manifestation to hang off. That is, I
see that all recordings could be viewed as manifestations of the
arrangements that were performed.
> In any case, to me this shows
> me that our relationships are actually more complex that the WEMI
> hierarchy, and I suspect that even the FRBR creators might agree. It's
> not a strait W-<E-<M-<I chain, but one that can have iterations, so
> you
> can have (if I can do this -- never was able to do that ASCII art)
>
> W <- E <- M
> E <- M <-E <-M
I'm not sure there's any hierarchy in there at all really. Even with
WEMI you can view it either way up and there are various ways of
thinking that make the E/M distinction decidedly fuzzy. The thing is
to start using it with real data (as per the LC WG FOBC
recommendation) and see what happens. To do that you need to get your
hands dirty with the data and see what happens - then change and
adapt and discuss the breakages you find. Just as I'm trying to do
with the work I've done with marc data.
>
> OK, that's not it, but in essence if we give up trying to fill in the
> WEMI for every thing and focus on relationships between works, we will
> find that WEMI expresses relationships but is not a strict hierarchy.
> And I think your diagram shows that, but I need to study it some more.
I think so.
>
> kc
>
> p.s. ok, admit it -- you've got some nifty software for doing those
> diagrams, right? If you are doing them in MS PPT I'll hate myself
> for my
> ineptness in that medium.
Well, that one was done in OmniGraffle, a really nice drawing tool
for Mac. The closest thing for Windows would be Visio.
rob
Received on Fri Dec 07 2007 - 05:30:54 EST