Re: NGC4LIB by RSS

From: Rinne, Nathan (ESC) <RinneN_at_nyob>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:05:52 -0500
To: NGC4LIB_at_listserv.nd.edu
Karen,

May I suggest that perhaps you would be better off accepting Ross's charitable interpretation of your remarks?  Of course, sometimes it really is important to understand what people really mean.  Maybe this is one of those times.

I assume that all of us here know that simply having a degree does not authorize someone to make unquestionable propositions.  Karen, do you really believe in the importance of inquiry and seeking the truth?  In every single profession there are PhD's who disagree about a very great deal - and this is what has driven much progress in our world.

I am not opposed to change.  Change is obviously a part of life.  In any case, I said that I *suspected* that Weinberger had fallen prey to a naïve reading of Aristotle.

Although this came to me through reading a secondary source (Peter Gould, writing an article called "The Tyranny of Taxonomy" in the May/June issue of "The Sciences" - check out the third paragraph), the source this author used was G.E.R. Lloyd from Cambridge U., a noted scholar on Aristotle among other things: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._E._R._Lloyd  Maybe he was mistaken, and maybe I should have checked the primary source.  But I made the decision I did and am not convinced it was wrong.

I like David Weinberger.  I've conversed with him via email.  I think he's a very gifted and creative man.  I find his honesty and humanness very refreshing:

So, I've been reading this philosophical book about knowledge. It happens to be a particularly difficult one. *I basically don't know what the hell he's talking about.* But it comes highly recommended by the teacher who did the most to shape my thinking. I know that the book must have deep insights. But meanwhile I'm wondering if anyone ever died of a reading. http://www.kmworld.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=16897 (great piece by the way!)

Of course this very honesty, taken into consideration with the fact that Weinberger writes more for a popular audience, makes me, at this point, more partial to Llyod when it comes to matters such as the ones I have brought up.  Maybe Weinberger could change my mind if he'd take on matters at a similar depth.

Karen, I have no ill will towards you, and I hope you will reconsider indirectly "tagging" me as one who promotes "unproductive solipsism and haul-up-the-bridge idea-resistance of some discussion on this list".

Regards,
Nathan Rinne
Media Cataloging Technician
ISD 279 - Educational Service Center (ESC)
11200 93rd Ave. North
Maple Grove, MN. 55369
Work phone: 763-391-7183


-----Original Message-----
From: Next generation catalogs for libraries [mailto:NGC4LIB_at_listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of K.G. Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:12 AM
To: NGC4LIB_at_listserv.nd.edu
Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] NGC4LIB by RSS

> Er, maybe I am mistaking Karen's point, but I think she was getting at
> that if this was on a blog, rather than a professional mailing list,
> the outside world be able to weigh in on how Weinberger was being
> written off as a 'misinterpretation of Aristotle' or whatever.
>
> Not that she wants to follow along in Bloglines.
>
> But what do I know?
> -Ross.

Oh, now, Ross, don't spoil my fun! ;-)

The original quote was, "The thing is that I suspect Weinberger has fallen
prey to a naïve reading of Aristotle."

Wherever you weigh in on the miscellaneous/uber-order debate, suggesting
that Weinberger, with his PhD in philosophy and the rest of his track
record, somehow doesn't "get" Aristotle, reflects on the unproductive
solipsism and haul-up-the-bridge idea-resistance of some discussion on this
list.

K.G. Schneider
kgs_at_freerangelibrarian.com
Received on Wed Jun 06 2007 - 07:53:06 EDT