While I agree that the library could do a better job of disambiguation by providing more information about the author or even a title, I think it is a stretch to claim that Amazon provides a quick way to disambiguate. When you try the Michael Fitzgerald search it is nearly impossible to tell why most of the things returned were returned at all without digging into the individual records. And nowhere in the result is the Michael Fitzgerald you are looking for. You need to click on books and page through until you find it.
However, all of that misses the point that was being made. If you look are looking at Rat Race Blues and want to find other books by the authors, when you click on Michael Fitzgerald you are dumped back into a keyword search. I don't think that is what any user would expect. They would expect to be taken to more books by the same author, wouldn't they.
Oh, I just realized that when Ross did his search, he used quotes around "Michael Fitzgerald". When I try that search, I don't get the book I am looking for in the results at all. So, even if you were better able to navigate the Amazon results, you would still fail to find the "Michael Fitzgerald" you are looking for.
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From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle_at_KCOYLE.NET>
To: NGC4LIB_at_listserv.nd.edu
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:38:11 AM
Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] The Situation We're In (was Re: [NGC4LIB] Authority maintenance )
The big problem I have with the library list of authors, disambiguated
with their dates of birth, is that there is no way in heck that users
know the birth date of the author. So authority control adds some data
that may keep authors apart but doesn't help the user find the author
they are looking for. So the Michael Fitzgerald on this list knew he was
#5, but if I were looking for him I'd have to choose between authors
born in 1946, 1949, 1955 or June 11 1955, 1957, 1958, 1959. How does
this help me? The books I get don't have the author's birth date on them.
What Amazon does give is a quick way of disambiguating by showing a
recent product. There's no reason why libraries couldn't add the title
(or cover art) of the most recent item they have by that author. Oh,
here's the Michael Fitzgerald who wrote about Asberger's syndrome, vs.
the Michael Fitzgerald who was in A Chorus Line. If a user is searching
on an author's name then most likely they have some idea of what type of
creative product that author produced.
kc
Ross Singer wrote:
> On 5/30/07, Michael Fitzgerald <mike_at_jazzdiscography.com> wrote:
>>> a lot of stuff...
>
> Out of curiosity, how does the average person navigate this:
> http://orlabs.oclc.org/Identities/find?fullName=%22michael+fitzgerald%22
>
> over this:
> http://amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/104-2774713-7821547?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=%22michael+fitzgerald%22
>
>
> ?
>
> This is no defense of Amazon, but depending on your name authority
> file for disambiguation is a big leap in assuming people know who the
> hell you are (and that includes librarians).
>
> -Ross.
>
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