Re: Grammar Checker - sites

From: McDonald, Stephen <Steve.McDonald_at_nyob>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 21:40:08 +0000
To: CODE4LIB_at_LISTS.CLIR.ORG
Interesting.  I have not come across that.  That would be another situation where a grammar auto-correct would not work.  Always sanity-check auto-correction.

But I guess we are straying a bit from the purpose of the list.

					Steve McDonald
					Steve.mcdonald_at_tufts.edu


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From: Code for Libraries <CODE4LIB_at_LISTS.CLIR.ORG> On Behalf Of Katherine Deibel
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 5:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Grammar Checker - sites

Not everyone. There are people who recognize that "they" can be used in the singular case as it was previously in the history of the English language. 

"They is a librarian" is a grammatically correct sentence.

Katherine “Kate” Deibel, PhD
Library Accessibility Specialist
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-----Original Message-----
From: Code for Libraries <CODE4LIB_at_LISTS.CLIR.ORG> On Behalf Of Emily H.
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 5:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Grammar Checker - sites

>
> I misspoke a bit about individuals who use "they" pronouns.  The 
> pronouns for them would always be plural.  The verb gets more 
> complicated.  If the subject is a plural pronoun, the verb would also 
> be plural, but if the subject is a name, title, or phrase referencing 
> an individual, the verb would be singular.


I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding you, but this has not been my experience with individuals who use "they" pronouns - the verb is conjugated to agree with plural "they," even when the subject is singular.
e.g.
My friend Johanna is non-binary and uses "they" pronouns. They are vegan.
They enjoy foraging for mushrooms and wild plants.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 3:43 PM McDonald, Stephen <Steve.McDonald_at_tufts.edu>
wrote:

> I misspoke a bit about individuals who use "they" pronouns.  The 
> pronouns for them would always be plural.  The verb gets more 
> complicated.  If the subject is a plural pronoun, the verb would also 
> be plural, but if the subject is a name, title, or phrase referencing 
> an individual, the verb would be singular.  So you can get a mix of 
> singular verb and plural pronoun in those cases, which a grammar checker is not going to get right.
>
> The moral of the story, though, is that auto-grammar correctors will 
> not be perfect, so don't trust them completely.
>
>                                         Steve McDonald
>                                         Steve.mcdonald_at_tufts.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries <CODE4LIB_at_LISTS.CLIR.ORG> On Behalf Of 
> charles meyer
> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 4:04 PM
> To: CODE4LIB_at_LISTS.CLIR.ORG
> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Grammar Checker - sites
>
> Hi my esteemed listmates,
>
> I was wondering which sites others use to check for grammar?
>
> Grammar Girl and Grammar.com don't seem to allow you to type in a 
> phrase to check on its grammar.
>
> Ex. The community is invited to share their thoughts...
>
> Is that the correct matching of singular/plural nouns with pronouns?
>
> Thank you?
>
> Charles.
>
> Charles Meyer
> Charlotte County Public Library
> Port Charlotte, FL
>
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