Re: Note [administratativia]

From: Kate Deibel <0000001fd0f2bb98-dmarc-request_at_nyob>
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:24:34 +0000
To: CODE4LIB_at_LISTS.CLIR.ORG
What was false? What was an assumption? 

Katherine Deibel | PhD
Inclusion & Accessibility Librarian
Syracuse University Libraries 
T 315.443.7178
kndeibel_at_syr.edu
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Syracuse University

-----Original Message-----
From: Code for Libraries <CODE4LIB_at_LISTS.CLIR.ORG> On Behalf Of S B
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:22 AM
To: CODE4LIB_at_LISTS.CLIR.ORG
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]

You are making an assumption and false statement.  Only part one of the series has been printed.  There are more parts coming.  Instead of asking me questions or having a courtesy of emailing me privately, choose to take the public route of criticizing.  

I hope positive discussion will happen here on Sexual Harassment in Libraries.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 3, 2019, at 8:03 AM, Jenn C <jenncd_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> As also not official, let me say that the vagueness of identity, lack 
> of research oversight and inclusion of transphobia in your "piece" 
> makes every concern about this article legitimate.
> 
> I do not apologize.
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:22 AM Craig Boman <craig.boman_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Sunni,
>> 
>> On behalf of the leaderless Code4lib community, for which I have no 
>> authority to represent, please allow us to apologize. In my short 
>> time participating in Code4lib it has been clear to me that Code4lib 
>> has been a place to talk about gender issues in library coding 
>> communities <https://code4lib.org/c4l18-keynote-statement/>. It has 
>> been a place to discuss diversity and inclusion in library coding 
>> communities <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWLSbIj4JjA>. As others 
>> have stated, I would like to reiterate that Code4lib is certainly a 
>> place to talk about sexual harassment within our technology 
>> perspectives; we are not sweeping this under the rug. Although this 
>> was not your first time posting to our listserv, we welcome and 
>> encourage your ongoing participation. We may not always get it right, but we hope to learn.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Craig
>> 
>> (he/him/his)
>> Craig Boman, MLIS (Ph.D. student)
>> Discovery Services Librarian and
>> Assistant Librarian
>> Miami University Libraries
>> 
>> 302 King Library
>> Bomanca_at_miamioh.edu
>> ORCID ID: 0000-0001-7511-4078
>> 
>> "There is no education as that which comes from participation in the 
>> constant stream of events." - Jane Addams (1902, p. 93) Craig Bowman 
>> Craig Bauman
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 7:38 PM Mike Giarlo <mjgiarlo_at_stanford.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Code4Lib has always been home both to technical and social 
>>> conversations (and everything in between). The mailing list blurb 
>>> may not effectively convey this, but this has been true for over 
>>> 12-13 years in my
>> experience.
>>> Discussions of what Code4Libbers can do to increase awareness of 
>>> sexual harassment in our world is *not* off-topic.
>>> 
>>> What is off-topic, and off-base, is some of the inappropriate ad 
>>> hominem remarks in this thread that may have a chilling effect on the discussion.
>>> We all play a part in making Code4Lib a welcoming place, and I'm 
>>> sorry
>> that
>>> not all of us have lived up to that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Mike Giarlo
>>> 
>>> Software Engineer & Architect
>>> 
>>> Digital Library Systems & Services
>>> 
>>> Stanford Libraries
>>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Code for Libraries <CODE4LIB_at_LISTS.CLIR.ORG> on behalf of 
>>> Edward Almasy <0000000e5cccdc3a-dmarc-request_at_LISTS.CLIR.ORG>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 15:09
>>> To: CODE4LIB_at_LISTS.CLIR.ORG
>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]
>>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2019, at 1:03pm, Monica Westin <monica.e.westin_at_GMAIL.COM>
>>> quoted:
>>>> *This mailing list provides a forum for discussion all things 
>>>> relating
>>> to programming code for libraries. This is a place to discuss 
>>> particular programming languages, but also provides a place to 
>>> discuss the issues of programming in libraries in general*
>>> 
>>> I think discussion about sexual harassment issues is crucial, in the 
>>> library world and throughout our society, but it seems to me a 
>>> stretch to construe the above as having been intended to include it.
>>> 
>>> One solution, used by some other communities, would be to create a 
>>> new "sister" list, named something like CODE4LIB-COMMUNITY, for 
>>> discussion of non-technical topics important to the Code4Lib community.
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>> 
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